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I wanna know how to make the search button find the name easier. For example, when u type Sam-Soon it finds nothing or I want to find "Han Ga In" I type Han and nothing


Han Ji Hye's birthday is on May 17 1984 as per this article.http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=130000&biid=2004052124298

Format

The formats your drafted are very clear and easy to follow. The only thing I would omit would be the "viewership rating." Taiwan and China dramas do not maintain a standardized rating system that is readily available to use. Unless I can find a site that offers such info, I rather not have it as one of the standardized categories. Which reminds me, I don't know where Addictus got his/her rating info. So I'm thinking of deleting the "Top 10 All-time Highest rated TV dramas" from the drama page.

One thing to remind everyone. If you do add viewership ratings to these dramas, make sure you cite the source of that information. As WaterOB mentioned, there may be two or more sources for viewership ratings, and more likely they differ from one another. Maybe work out a design where a drama can list viewership ratings from multiple sources.
Example
*'''Viewership ratings:''' 13.2 [http://source1.com], 14.1 [http://source2.com]

Groink 00:43, 21 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Let's post your Chinese guidelines on DramaWiki:Style guide and start editing drama/actor sections. I'm most actively in TWdrama, so I'll begin with that.
--WaterOB 12:23, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Ok, I've posted the guidelines, they can now be found on the Style guide. --A10203040 13:13, 21 Jul 2006 (EDT)


Good job A10203040!!!!! Thank you so much for your efforts and taking the lead on this. I'm seeing a huge increase in editing activity among the Chinese pages. Having these policies in writing and posted on DramaWiki will give us an even more solid foundation to stand on when we continue to clean things up here. Groink 17:50, 21 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Thanks, I'm glad that it has been of help. I will like to thank WaterOB for getting the ball rolling and for his valuable input in this too.--A10203040 01:56, 22 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Pinyin

Oh, sorry for not mentioning any changes. It is under the threat of a fellow user, because if I do not change the Pinyin of all the articles and their redirects within 24 hours, they will all be reverted. I've been changing the articles' titles, and all wiki-links that contain the new titles. I believe it is necessary, because Pinyin uses that format I've been trying to change all the Chinese Pinyin names to. (e.g. Zhang Tie Lin > Zhang Tielin; the earlier format is nonstandard Pinyin) --Ahbeng 00:01, 24 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Well, before taking what I said out of context... I mentioned that if you move an article, you must also repair all the wikilinks pointing to the article. I didn't say you had to go and repair ALL the articles you found to be a problem. Despite all of that, what you SHOULD have done is in the talk page of the romanization article is bring up what you feel is incorrect, and then let the others make comments. This will then allow for the romanization article to be corrected. If you did what you did on Wikipedia, you would've been caught, hung, shot at, and tied to the railroad tracks. Groink 00:34, 24 Jul 2006 (EDT)
Actually, at Wikipedia, you receive several warnings before receiving a temporary block anyhow. Also, Wikipedia does allow for changes, if spelling is incorrect and the such. And, I've fixed every article that had incorrectly spelt wiki-links (through the categories Chinese and Taiwanese). --Ahbeng 00:38, 24 Jul 2006 (EDT)
One reason why I wanted you to wait because many articles on the net use either, even if you do think it's incorrect. Another is that it creates a more complex system in naming chinese articles. --A10203040 00:52, 24 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Thanks

I love Shao Nian Yang Jia Jiang to pieces. So it's becoming a pet project for me. (^o^)/>~~
I'm looking at your "List of Drama Aired" and it's amazing. I'll contribute to your list whenever I can. --WaterOB 12:16, 25 Oct 2006 (EDT)

Emerald on the Roof

If it's not a re-run, then please do include the weekday info. Sorry for the mistake. --waterOB 12:54 (EDT) Nov 13, 2006

About Article Formatting Draft

Sorry, I didn't know where to put thisand for my english. Well, I agree with all all the stuff concerning the formatting. But, I got a suggestion about the images. Sometimes they can be hard to find so if the images don't correspond to the standard, i think we have to put them, because people need to see how the artist look.

Guo Liang

While I was watching a drama series (Happy and Lucky/The Luckiest Man) with him, I decided to look him up. I did not see his name under Guo Liang but the name Li Guo Li (or so I thought it was him just with a different name). While browsing through yesasia, this "Li Guo Li" seemed to be a director as well as an actor. He acted in most if not all of the dramas listed in wiki under Guo Liang whom I was looking up. I'm not 100% sure that, that is him under a different name but I did do a lot of googling and the two seemed to match to me. Sry for the trouble if they are two totally different people. Do you know if they are two different people?

Allowed External Links

Hi, could you please clarify whether external links to certain forums are allowed on DramaWiki? For instance, I've seen links to Soompi forums in some Korean artiste articles, but I thought sites that require membership/signing up to view are not allowed? Is this an exemption from the rule since Soompi specializes in Korean entertainment similar to how Jdorama.com specializes in Japanese entertainment? If this is the case, would some SPCNET threads be considered acceptable links for Chinese artistes or series? I saw one in an actor's article, but didn't know if it's allowed. Thanks! --Lady Zhuge 18:31, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Wow, I wasn't aware Soompi required membership. They didn't before. In keeping with Wikipedia-like rules, we should actually stop linking to Soompi. All information linked from DramaWiki should be free of any form of registration. As I'm sure some people will find work-arounds, I would not recommend linking to "cached" pages like Google, as these search engines flush their cache frequently. So for now, I would say do not link to Soompi articles in the future, but at the same time do not go on a mega-Soompi link hunt. If you run into a Soompi link that forces you to login, go ahead and remove it. Groink 20:53, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Ya, just checked through the site. I don't think Soompi requires membership, but some of their forums require one for access. It seems like some of the links here go directly to such areas of their forum. I'll try to keep a look-out for them, thanks. What about if it links to an area of their site which doesn't require membership? --A10203040 21:28, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Is just certain forums that require login? Personally I avoid Soompi like the plague, so I have no idea what does on there. The rule should be enforced on a link-by-link basis. If you can go to the linked page without a login - link. If you cannot - don't link. If one day it doesn't need a link, and then later on it does require a login, then remove the link. Groink 21:35, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I wasn't planning on going on any kind of link hunt, but was rather using Soompi as an example. My real question was about where the line between links that are allowed and those that are not is drawn. Official sites, those accessible to the public that aren't considered "fan sites" (can be somewhat subjective), ones in English are generally okay, but what about threads at forums like SPCNET? They don't require registration to view, but may be considered too "fan-oriented"/biased for DramaWiki, so I wanted to ask before doing any linking.--Lady Zhuge 21:51, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Yep, been clicking through their site, seems like membership access is required only on a few of their forum boards, the rest of the site is free access, will keep a lookout. As for SPCNet, I think I'll leave it to the admins to decide, but I noticed that DramaWiki has linked to them for their TV reviews on some of the other pages. --A10203040 21:58, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I don't know anything about SPCNET, so I cannot comment about their content. To go a step back, the guideline about linking to fansites is that we don't want DramaWiki to become a linksite for amateur sites so that these punks can boost their sites' Google points. The Wikipedia guideline behind linking is to provide information that is not already covered in the wiki article, but at the same time avoid linking to information that is either not accurate (ex: most of the Goong sites, Johnny sites), opinionated (touches the neutral point of view (NPOV) guideline) or contain information that we don't want to expose to our visitors (porn or other graphic content). In other words, if an article for Joe Blow links to a SPCNET article, and all you get out of that SPCNET article is his shoe size and how gorgeous he is (we call this crap fancruft), I don't want DramaWiki to associate itself with the article. Link to a page ONLY if that external page contains REALLY valuable information that is non-fancruft. But unfortunately 99-percent of these amateur fansites are filled with fancruft. So as a general rule, just don't link to fansites.
As for being subjective, detecting fancruft is very simple. An actress' birthdate and birthplace is valid. Her bra size is fancruft. Her blood type is valid (very important in East Asia.) Her hair color is fancruft. Her star sign is valid. A list of her best friends and boyfriend are fancruft. Where she went to school is valid. How she paid for school is fancruft. Frivolous hobbies such as sleeping, eating, watching TV, etc. are all fancruft. Her inspirations and desires are fancruft. Her habit of crying during a movie is fancruft. I can't explain fancruft any better than this. So in conclusion, if the external page contains fancruft, isn't NPOV, or contains porn or other rude photos, don't link to it. Groink 22:14, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Soompi

I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about the soompi threads. They are protected forums that Soompi designated to be protected. I also can't find other links. Those links that I post are where everybody goes to talk about it. News, articles, images, episode links, episode summaries made by members are on it. That's one of the reasons why they are protected. If people want to get in, then they should first make an account. It's pretty easy. Just go to soompi.com and sign up. I think you only need to make a password and an user ID. They don't even ask for your real name. C51236

But still, the MediaWiki rule - including Wikipedia and DramaWiki, as DramaWiki attempts to use the same model, bans linking to sites that require some form of membership. Doesn't matter if you don't put in a real name, don't pay money, or whatever else - a login system is a login system. This link is an official Wikipedia policy page describing links that should be avoided. Groink 14:44, 6 Apr 2007 (CDT)
That's kind of unfortunate.. looking through it, the information they have is quite good. I'll check back on this later, don't really have the energy to think about this problem right now. --A10203040 04:54, 7 Apr 2007 (CDT)

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