User talk:Cerise

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Groink 21:42, 1 Jun 2008 (CDT)

Confusing air time

Why did you change the air time on My Lovely Family from "8:25 (night)" to "20:25 (8:25 Korean time)". Is there a reason? To be more precise, why do you add "(8:25 Korean time)" at all when it actually must be 8:25PM which is the same as 20:25. Both times are Korean air times. It think we should list either "20:25" or "8:25PM" and not both. Listing "8:25" is also confusing because it could be interpreted as 8:25AM (morning drama). I have noticed this weird notation also on a few other pages recently. --MoerkJ talk 19:30, 4 Oct 2008 (CEST)

I thought that I should add a 24hour format and a 12hour format. I missed the PM though. It's all Korean time. I've noticed that most articles if not all use both formats that's why I followed (sorry). I've checked the Korean TV Show Article Formatting and there was nothing about that. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. But frankly, I'm not sure which format to use. Cerise 21:33, 4 Oct 2008

Lee Jin Hyuk -> Lee Joon Hyuk

There was a mistake in the translation of this hangul character 준. 준 -> is Joon and not Jin. 진 -> is Jin. Both you and another user Imian made a profile for this Korean actor who acted in First Wives Club. But there are differences between the two profiles. Yours is more detailed and has an image whereas the other does not. However the actor's name is really Lee Joon Hyuk and not Lee Jin Hyuk and we can't have two profiles for one actor one of the profiles have to be deleted. Sorry. -C51236

Thank you for the correction. I always do a double check, but I guess it slipped this time. I named the picture too as Lee Jin Hyuk, this too might need to be deleted and re-uploaded. Is it ok to do that? Cerise
Re-uploading of the image isn't really necessary. Also, it would be nice to have a backlink to the artist's page on the image descriptions. The backlink can be added when uploading. For more detailed descriptions you can also use the {{Information}} template. --MoerkJ talk 21:14, 19 Oct 2008 (CEST)

Genghis Khan

Drama articles should be created based on their country of origin. Since Genghis Khan is a Chinese drama which originally aired in China, it shouldn't be part of the Korean season ring or contain anything Korean just because it was aired in Korea and probably other countries. Likewise, there are plenty of Korean dramas that air in China, but that doesn't mean their articles should be created in Chinese. I'm going to work on fixing the Genghis Khan article now. --Lady Zhuge 03:25, 22 Oct 2008 (CEST)

Well received. I'll be more careful. Just one question though, how about the joint productions? Just like Bicheonmu. Cerise

Use Friends 2002 as an example. Groink 21:40, 22 Oct 2008 (CEST)

The Bicheonmu article itself is a good example. Note that the Chinese and Korean thespians and production staff are romanized based on their respective countries of origin. --Lady Zhuge 00:53, 23 Oct 2008 (CEST)

The move button is for renaming pages

Please use the move feature to rename pages. Do not copy the text of an existing page to a new one and manually turn the old page into a redirect. This is important because with the move function you also move the correcponding talk page (if it exists) and the article's edit history. It is a lot of work for me to hack the database in order to move the edit history from the old page (now the redirect or disambig page) to the new (renamed) one. Other bad side effects of a "copy-move" are that the copied page is listed as a new page, although it is just a renamed existing page. Also, manually created redirects make it impossible to re-rename the page ("move over a redirect"). --MoerkJ talk 18:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll definitely keep that in mind in any of my future edits. But, question, as I've read in the move feature page, the new page will get all the content of A (history, discussion...etc). What if I need page A? Like if I want to add a disambiguation page. I did this with the Lee Do Hyun page. Thanks. --Cerise 03:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
In the past, I've moved pages to create a disambiguation page when I added a new person with the same name as an exixting person. At first, I thought disambiguation pages was the perfect answer to handling artist with the same names but it is not.
As a pratical matter, if your end goal is alert other users to the new Lee Do Hyun article, a disambiguation page is not worth the time and effort. When another user adds Lee Do Hyun to a TV Show, chances are he will add the link to the disambiguation page, save the article, then later REEDIT to add the correct Lee Do Hyun. It is the same number of edits as if there were no disambiguation page. Any gains upfront end is then lost on the back end.
Starting off initially with uniquely created names are a better answer, e.g. Lee Do Hyun (F 1984-Dec-19) or Lee Do Hyun (M 1985-Dec-11), but for other users selecting which name to add later on would be more difficult.
The easiest way I believe is to use the For:Template in the original Lee Do Hyun article to alert the others to the new Lee Do Hyun article. Minimun changes with same end results. --Imian 04:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes. It's true. But, disambiguation pages prevent creating a new article for any exciting artist. Say that if we don't have the Lee Do Hyun page but we have Lee Do Hyun (1984) and Lee Do Hyun (1985). Someone could end up creating that page. I think they're mostly helpful. --Cerise 11:38, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I am saying that if we have an actor named "Kim Kit Kat" created and another "Kim Kit Kat" comes along, you only need to create a new unique page for the 2nd "Kim Kit Kat (1984)" and add the For:Template to each page. You'll end up with a "Kim Kit Kat" and a "Kim Kit Kat (1984)".
If you have 2 actors named "Kim Kit Kat" and there is no page for either, then pick the most active actor and create a "Kim Kit Kat" page for him to include the For:template for the other "Kim Kit Kat (1984)". Next create a similar page for the other "Kim Kit Kat (1984)". Again you'll end up with a "Kim Kit Kat" and a "Kim Kit Kat (1984)".
You don't to create a disambiguation page if you always start out creating a "Kim Kit Kat" page .
You said "if we don't have the Lee Do Hyun page but we have Lee Do Hyun (1984) and Lee Do Hyun (1985). Someone could end up creating that page."
I agree - so I would just move the more active actor - either Lee Do Hyun (1984) or Lee Do Hyun (1985) to "Lee Do Hyun". Other adding the For:Template there is no need for further editing to existing articles. --Imian 23:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I have to agree with the "no need to editing to existing articles". Since, I did that before and editing of other articles wasted so much time and effort. I'll keep Mr. Kim Kit Kat's example in mind in any of future relating issues. I like the name by the way. Thanks Imian. --Cerise 13:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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