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IRIS II page

Hi MoerkJ,

First of all, is there a staff member list? Particularly a list including people with authority, so I know who to contact?

Secondly, Harukasumire and I disagree with something. Harukasumire thinks that IRIS and IRIS II should be on the same page, following Dramawiki Style guide. On the other hand, I think IRIS and IRIS II should be on separate pages. IF we were to keep IRIS II on IRIS' page, I think we should change formatting and the flow of the article because it looks very awkward. Also, the Style guide mentioned something about reader fatigue. I think there's too much information on IRIS' page, so perhaps it would be better to make a second page. For Harukasumire and my conversation, please check out my user talk. --Msmall92 (talk) 15:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

On my userpage there is a link to the DramaWiki admin list. You can also post in the DramaWiki discussion thread of our forum, see DramaWiki:Questions. Keep in mind that the admins mainly exist to do certain administative tasks (e.g. blocking vandals, deleting pages, or changing protected pages). They are not meant to find consensus on every editing discussion.
Usually all article related matters should be discussed on the article's talk page. I will create some "help seek" templates similar to the ones on Wikipedia. This should make it easier for editors to draw attention to discussions or to ask for admin help.
If IRIS II is officially a second season of IRIS then it can be added as a "Season 2" section. We do it this way with almost all multi-season dramas. If you think it should be on a separate page then I recommend to discuss this on the appropriate talk page. --MoerkJ talk 13:16, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

New Format!?

Hey MoerkJ, I recently noticed that someone added a new birth date template, where it's Month day, year (age), and I was just wondering if we were changing over to that? I doubled checked with the editing page and it still says "YYYY-Month-Day" so I was really confused, since one of the user was going around changing formats for some of the actresses pages. Please let me know if we're using that format or not, otherwise someone should give those editors a heads up, before they change the other pages. Thank you! -- Shigesuke87

No, we keep sticking to the format described in the style guides. User:Waf has copied that template from Wikipedia and used it here without discussing it first(, which is ok). Maybe I'll change the output of the {{birth date and age}} template so that it matches with our present formatting to avoid further confusion. The actual benefit of the template is the age calculation. --MoerkJ talk 06:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about that all, I forgot to change the date format before MoerkJ caught it. Waf (talk) Hello! Goodbye! 00:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Weird glitch?


So I noticed a weird glitch or whatever the heck it is in this page: Category:KOST (I removed this formatting, [[]]... I don't think you're an OST, LOL.) This "glitch" I'm talking about only occurs when you're not logged in. So you have to log out your username to see the "glitch". When you see the category (logged out), there are several OST pages missing from the list, such as 7th Grade Civil Servant OST, IRIS OST, IRIS II OST, That Winter, the Wind Blows OST, Yawang OST, and many more. It seems like the glitch does not include the recently created OSTs. I'm confused why this is happening. Is this normal? --Msmall92 (talk) 01:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, normally this shouldn't happen. This is a bad effect of server side caching. All anonymous readers (user who are not logged in) get served with cached html pages. Usually a category page should be up-to-date as soon as a new page gets added to (or removed from) the category. You can enforce page updates by purging pages. I have just purged Category:KOST and deleted all other category pages from the server's file cache. Besides that there may exist cache problems on the client side that you can solve by bypassing or clearing your browser's cache.
To link to special pages (categories, templates, images, etc.) you have to add a colon in front of the namespace. To link to Category:KOST you need to write [[:Category:KOST]]. --MoerkJ talk 21:15, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

contributing to d-addicts

I know I am relatively new on this wiki, but I would like to help it in any way possible. I am not a real active user of editing wikis, but rather administrative tasks/back-end type stuff. Is there any good place for me to get started on this? Thanks. Waf (talk) Hello! Goodbye! 07:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for asking but there is no back-end or administrative server work to be done. Actually I'm not the server owner and cannot grant you access to the server. Most of the administrative work (i.e. maintenance) is done through the web interface of the wiki and can be done with normal user privileges. Admin privileges are only needed for deleteing pages and files and for some customizations. If you want to edit protected pages you can always post proposals on the belonging talk pages. --MoerkJ talk 15:46, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
I looked at the Main Page and remembered I asked you about the vector theme. Is there any way I can help with that? Also, regarding bots: would folks be against writing a bot that goes around and adds the birth date template to pages? Waf (talk) Hello! Goodbye! 01:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
Regarding the Vector theme.. honstly I don't see the benefit for DramaWiki at the moment. Just go to the history of a page and replace action=history with useskin=vector to see the difference. I understand why Wikipedia uses it but IMHO we don't need it. WP has a more complex side bar (the main menu, five collapsible menus plus the language menue) and with Vector they moved the search form to the top right corner to improve accessibility a little. We have only a main menu (navigation), the toolbox and two search forms. It is very compact and is just perfect like it is. I also checked WP:CLASS to see if Vector offers anything new, but I couldn't find anything.
We've never been using bots at DramaWiki. So far nobody requested specific bot tasks. I'd discussed the bot topic only a few times with no progress. I guess nobody had the skill and/or possibility to program and to test a bot. Until today I have made some minor changes (mostly trivial cleanups or fixes) directly inside the database using SQL REPLACE queries.
Do you have any experience creating a wikibot? If so, which framework do you want to use? Before we can allow a bot on DramaWiki we would need to test it first on a mirror or test server. --MoerkJ talk 21:46, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I would agree with you on the fact that this wiki is not as complex as Wikipedia, but is there a harm in changing the default theme to Vector? IMO, it does look more appealing than the old theme (thus I would gander as to why Wikipedia created the "Wikipedia Usability Initiative").
I do not have any experience with a wikibot, but I have dealt with quite a few frameworks. I completely agree that there would need to be tests done on mirror/test servers. I would most likely write it in Python, though the wiki would have to support it. Otherwise, I could just do it in PHP.
Side note, is there someone I can contact regarding the server itself (not necessarily related to the wiki)? Waf (talk) Hello! Goodbye! 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Several modifications of the monobook skin need to be ported to the Vector skin first (e.g. the web search, the banner ads for anon readers, and perhaps some CSS modifications). Together with the Vector skin I also want to add/enable some extensions. Some of them are needed for the switch to the Vector skin. Some make future upgrades easier because they make certain modifications unnecessary. Only when this is all done then I can make Vector the default skin. Unfortunately some of the changes take some time because the MediaWiki software underwent a lot of changes compared to old version we used before. You can check the progress by switching already to Vector in your user preferences and/or by browsing anonymously using the "useskin" trick.
Ruroshin is the "owner" of the server. The best way to reach him is via email, because he rarely checks the wiki or the forum for PMs. --MoerkJ talk 21:05, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Easy question first: how would I email Ruroshin? I found a d-addicts email on the forum; I assume that works fine?
Second, is there anything I can do to help with porting the stuff and whatnot with the monobook skin to vector? -- Waf (talk) 02:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Better use the mail address that I had sent you via wiki-email. I'm not sure if the old address from the forum profile is still in use. Well, most of the work is done. Only some cleanups, the documentation of the changes, and some testing of the skin needs to be done. --MoerkJ talk 04:18, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Ah, ok. side note: gmail likes to think d-addicts mail is spam for some reason. -- Waf (talk) 04:40, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Pages for vocalists

Hello MoerkJ! I'm not sure if you're the right person to be asked about this, but what do you think about creating pages for vocalists who have participated in Original Soundtrack for Korean Dramas? For example - Baek Ji Young has participated in a lot of OSTs over the years. I think that those who have a solid record of OST participation such as Baek Ji Young, Yesung (Super Junior), and so on deserve a page listing all of their OST participation. Since this website is only related to Dramas, we would only list their OST participation other than the "Profile" information. Please let me know what you think! --Msmall92 (talk) 21:59, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

You may add a page for any artists who are directly related to drama. IMHO, this also includes musicians who contributed a lot to dramas. But... don't be surprised (or discouraged) if another editor marks such a page for deletion because (s)he thinks that the drama-relation is not big enough for an addition. --MoerkJ talk 21:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


How can I upload picture here?

Is there any link?

Please answer on my page

Thanks in Advance

--Zinzinzibidi (talk) 03:28, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. --MoerkJ talk 01:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, buddy. --Zinzinzibidi (talk) 08:49, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Table format for TV station's listing

Hi there!

I had changed the drama listing for a particular timeslot to table format. It was driving me nuts, seeing the ratings unaligned. Thus far I have changed for the Drama24 (TV Tokyo) page and the Mon slot for TBS. Is it OK? If it isn't, please do let me know. I will revert it back to before. If it's OK, I will update the rest for the Japanese TV stations.

Cheers! BaBa (talk) 15:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it looks better when using tables for more complex structured text (i.e. with more than two columns). I reduced the table styles in Drama24 (TV Tokyo) to a minimum and kept using the styles which are already defined by class wikitable (e.g. for centering and bolding the first column). Also, I added some more ratings.
Below I added a comparision of the two table styles defined in DramaWiki. I guess for most users here it is hard to understand what these classes actually do.
class wikitable class ratingtable
Where defined
Header cells
(which start with "!")
  • centered and bold text
  • light blue background colour
  • centered and bold text
  • orange background colour
Normal cells
  • left aligned text
  • centered text

the background colour is #F9F9F9, slightly darker than white, to create a contrast to the article background color

Other changes

a little horizontal padding (0.5em) is added to all cells, so the text doesn't stand too close to the vertical borders

See Wikipedia for other MediaWiki CSS definitions. --MoerkJ talk 12:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks for your reply. Will use that as the format for the rest of the drama time slots. Btw, if I need to have some of the images deleted, do I come over here and give you a list of them? Some of the dramas had prelim pics uploaded, and when the actual ones came along, I had updated them with a new version. Isn't there a way I can mark them for deletion, and someone somewhere just have to push a button on a regular basis and poof! they all disappear... ^^;;
-- BaBa (talk) 16:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you can mark images/pages/etc for deletion using templates. The DramaWiki:Deletion policy describes how it works. The marked pages will be listed in the maintenance section and will be deleted by our staff later.
For images that got overwritten with a new version it is a bit tricky. We don't have a procedure to mark them for cleanup of old revisions, yet. So, I recommended to (re)upload different looking images under a different name and mark the unused one for deletion.
I'll create a {{cleanupimage}} tag to mark images for cleanup. It will be similar to {{cleanupbecause}} but just for images. See DramaWiki:List of Templates for an old list of useful maintenance templates. --MoerkJ talk 17:32, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Help! I change the image but it doesn't work

I was changing the photo for actress Yuan Shan Shan, but the new one didn't show up; instead, the old one still showed up but with the size of the new one. You can see the problem here File:Yuan Shan Shan.jpg. I wonder how to solve this? Thanks alot. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 06:56, 26 April 2014 (UTC)‎

This is a known caching problem of the Mediawiki software, or rather your browser. There are ways to fix this:
  1. clear your browser cache and reload the page, or
  2. do a forced page reload to bypass your browser cache to see the webpage with the actual image, or
  3. open the image directly in your browser (e.g. through right mouse button menu), reload the image if necessary. Then go back and reload the page normally.
Please crop the artist photos as described in the style guide. The photo should show only the head (and the top of the shoulders) of the person. See File:ZhangYiJie.jpg or File:Yuan Shan Shan.jpg for example. Also, please sign your talk page edits. Thanks. --MoerkJ talk 07:33, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks alot, now I can see the correct image. --~Kotomi1994~~-- I;m testing my signature, can u see it?

It's Okay, It's/That's Love

Hi MoerkJ,

Alyviagan and I seem to be in a disagreement in terms of the title for the drama It's Okay, It's Love. Originally, the page was It's Alright, It's Love, then Alyviagan moved the page to It's Okay, That's Love. It sort of became a battle with moving the page between the two titles. Then I decided to create another page that combines both our preferred title which is It's Okay, It's Love. Yet, Alyviagan once again moved the page back to her preferred title. I recently sent a message on Alyviagan's user talk page asking why she wants to use her preferred title. You can check out what I posted. I'm at a loss of what to do. All I can think of is to have various users vote for the most appropriate title. I don't think it is fair for Alyviagan or even me to decide the title. I believe this should be applied for other future dramas as this has happened before. --Msmall92 (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

First, it seems that Alyvia doesn't know how to rename wikipages (using the move feature). Changing the pagename shouldn't be a problem if it's done properly. I reverted the copy-move and left her a message.
Second, there is no official English title for "괜찮아, 사랑이야" provided by SBS. As far as I know only KBS and MBC provide official translations on their English webpages for some popular dramas. If there is no official translation then we use what is most popular. For example, you can do a "Google-test" to find out the most popular translation:
  • "It's Okay, It's Love" AND SBS AND 2014 returns 101000 results
  • "It's Okay, That's Love" AND SBS AND 2014 returns 16200 results
  • "It's Alright, It's Love" AND SBS AND 2014 returns 28200 results
another test gives:
  • "괜찮아, 사랑이야" AND "It's Okay, It's Love" returns 13400 results
  • "괜찮아, 사랑이야" AND "It's Okay, That's Love" returns 663 results
  • "괜찮아, 사랑이야" AND "It's Alright, It's Love" returns 20700 results
Many fansites use the first two translations... some are even mixing both. I will use It's Okay, It's Love because it seems to be more popular at the moment. You can discuss a name change on the article's talk page. I also moved the edit histories of all three pages to It's Okay, It's Love as well. --MoerkJ talk 08:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Dear MoerkJ,
Yes, I admit I didn't know how to use the move feature but since you left me a message I've learned and changed. The reason why I changed it wasn't because of competing but because most sites such as Wikipedia and Viki (which is a licensed site) are using the tittle It's Okay, That's Love for this drama and I thought it was more appropriate and popular. I tried to discuss with Msmall92 but it seems like she didn't wanted to as she didn't even reply my message. I would say I agree with you MoerkJ, to use the tittle that is the most popular at the moment. --Alyviagan (talk)

Hello MoerkJ and Alyviagan,

Alyviagan - I have to respectfully disagree with you because Wikipedia and Viki are not official sources, even though Viki is a licensed site. It is not in any way involved in the production of the drama, therefore it is not an official source. As I stated just a few moments ago in my talk page, I did not intend to ignore Alyviagan's message. I had assumed that Alyviagan had somehow read MoerkJ and my discussion here on this page. And because of that assumption, I thought that there was no point in trying to further discuss with Alyviagan. I admit that it was wrong of me to make the wrong assumption. --Msmall92 (talk) 04:11, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Using the frame option for artist images

Is it okay if I want to put the photo as a frame instead of a thumb? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 14:27, 10 June 2014‎ (UTC)

No, you should always use the thumb option. The default size is 180px. If this is too small then set a bigger size, like this [[File:Image.jpg|thumb|200px|caption]]. On artist pages the default size should be perfect. Using the frame option is a bad idea, because it displays the picture in its original size. If someone overwrites a perfectly trimmed image with a larger one then the image is displayed at the wrong size.
Also I advise you for the last time: (1) do not to overwrite images with different looking ones, and (2) do not replace images that look fine and which need no replacement. If you don't follow our rules then I will revoke your upload rights. --MoerkJ talk 15:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Instagram link unavailable?

I want to insert the Instagram link for actress Song Zu Er on this page Song Zu Er, but whenever I tried to do so a message saying it's a spam appear and till now I could't add the link. Any solutions?

Btw I'm not quite clear about the rules you told me. Can you explain what do you mean by "images with different looking ones?". Also, if an image is fine but is too old for the artist now (e.g taken 3 years ago) can I change it to a newer one? Especially with child stars - their looks can change a lot as they grow up. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 18:52, 28 June 2014

I have banned Instagram links through MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist because it is not a useful information resource. Links to gallery sites or fansites are not wanted on DramaWiki pages. See the external links section of our style guide and the Blacklist Log for details.
Generally, images should not be overwritten without a reason. Point. If you overwrite a file, give a reason in the upload comment. If you edit/fix/improve an image then it is obviously ok to overwrite. See File:XuYuHan.jpg, File:NakayamaYuuma7.jpg or File:LeeSoJung.jpg as good examples; the images were replaced with a cropped version of the same photo.
But, if you overwrite an artist photo from 2008 with a different photo from 2014 then it is "overwriting an image with different looking one". See File:AshidaMana.jpg as an example where three different looking photos where uploaded using the same name (without giving a reason why it was changed). Same with File:TangYiFei.jpg and many more... why did you replace the image with a different one using the same filename?
If you want to upload a recent picture for former child actor then please use a different name so we can use both images, one for the former child actor and one for the later grown-up/mature actor. Also, "3 years" is not old. As long as the person on the photo is easily recognizable there is no need to replace an image (see Guidelines on image selection and usage). We usually have a link to an official site which may contain more recent pictures, thus we do not need to change the artist photos "every year". --MoerkJ talk 18:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox person

Hello MoerkJ,

What do you think about implementing this template to DramaWiki? I think it'll look great along with the recently updated DramaWiki software. It'll make all artist articles look neat and tidier. I know we have so many artists in our database, but I think it'll be worth it and I'm sure many dedicated users, including me, will be willing to update all the pages with the artists. I think we'll have to modify the template from Wikipedia, if possible, so that it will fit DramaWiki's standards.

I do not have experience with creating templates, but I think this could be a good learning experience for me and I could use that experience for creating future templates. That is, if you don't mind me creating one.

What do you think? --Msmall92 (talk) 23:18, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, I wish we would have been using templates for artist profiles and drama details from the beginning or atleast much earlier. I gave up the idea, because changing so many pages to use templates would be a tedious job with little benefit. Maybe this could be a new DramaWiki project once the template(s) exist and are approved. Writing the templates isn't that difficult (for me). If the interest is high enough and if there are enough editors who will use the templates then I'll write them.
If you just want to try it out yourself then you may create the templates (e.g. User:Msmall92/test template) and test pages (e.g. User:Msmall92/Sandbox) in you user space or in our Sandbox. Then you can test your userspace template simply with {{User:Msmall92/test template}} in the sandbox. If you're finished with testing you may mark your unneeded test pages for deletion if you want.
IMHO, the Infobox person template is not really what we should implement. It is a meta-template and it uses other complex templates and even lua modules. I'd suggest to start with something less complex like this. We should settle on the parameters we need before we start implementing anything.
Maybe it's a better idea to have a few smaller, specialized templates because some profile entries are country or language specific and would require language specific parameters. Having one template that covers parameters for all countries and professions would result in lenghty code very difficult to read/understand. I'm afraid that such a complex template would be very user-unfriendly and confusing. Perhaps the best way to implement this would be to have language specific wrapper templates which use the appropriate parameters of a meta-template. See the list of wrapper templates for {{infobox person}} as examples. --MoerkJ talk 04:13, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for responding. I understand your reasoning about how it would be incredibly tedious to change the pages. I've been updating a lot of KDrama OST pages which is tedious, but at the same time, I really enjoy updating them to give older OST pages a more "clean" look. I'm a bit confused at what you mean by language specific template. It seems that the parameters in the profile sections for the Japanese artists, Korean artists, and Chinese artists are largely similar with a few differences. But I will attempt to create a test template (and play around a bit) and maybe I'll understand your point because this whole creating a template thing is very foreign to me. --Msmall92 (talk) 04:42, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I forgot to rename the image, anyway to fix?

I recently uploaded a more recent picture for actor Wu Lei at this page File:WuLei.jpg, but I forgot to rename the file so that it doesn't overwrite the previous one. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks a lot. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 10:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. You can mark images or just certain revisions of an image for deletion with {{deleteimage}}. --MoerkJ talk 03:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Help! I can't change the file name

I was uploading a new photo for actress Kim So Yun here File:Kim So Yeon 2002.jpg, but I don't know why I can't change the file name no matter how much I tried to reload the page. So does that mean the file name on this page is unchangeable? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 04:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Normal users don't have the "movefile" right anymore. Only admins can rename files. If you want to replace an image with a different one then you should upload the new image using a different name. If you want to replace File:Kim So Yeon 2002.jpg with a new file then choose a different name when uploading the new file. Just append a number or letter to the old file name, for example Kim_So_Yeon_2002.1.jpg. See the image replacement guidelines for more. --MoerkJ talk 11:42, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

How to mark an image for deletion?

I see quite a lot of pictures that are no longer needed on a lot of profiles (e.g. former child actors' pictures). So how can I mark them for deletion? --Hazel (talk) 17:17, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

You can mark images for deletion by putting the {{deleteimage}} on the image's descripton page. --MoerkJ talk 12:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Confused about the production & broadcast year

Some dramas are produced in one year but broadcasted in another, e.g. production year is 2012 but broadcast year is 2014. In that case what year should I list the drama on an actor's profile, the production year or the broadcast year? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kotomi1994 (talk) on 03:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

We always refer to the start of the broadcast when categorizing drama pages by year. If production dates are known and differ much from the broadcast date then it may be noteworthy in a trivia/notes section. As far as I know, for Korean dramas the production often starts shortly before the broadcast period and the production of the later episodes continues during the broadcast period. For Chinese dramas it seems to be much different. Usually the series will be shown on tv long after the production has finished. --MoerkJ talk 12:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Social medias

I am shocked that DramaWiki does not have a page on any social media sites (Facebook, Twitter). What do you think of DramaWiki joining the social media realm? I could help establish a page on Facebook and perhaps Twitter (which I have far less knowledge on). But I am a quick learner, so setting up a Twitter page wouldn't be an issue for me. I think this could help DramaWiki become more prominent and allowing interactions between us and people who use our website. Our competitor, AsianWiki seems to have successful Facebook and Twitter pages, so I don't see why we can't do it. --Msmall92 (talk) 14:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I never used blogs or social networks like facebook. Feel free set up a facebook page for DramaWiki if you want. Maybe you can find someone experienced who wants to team up and help you. On Twitter we have an account for announcements regarding the forum. --MoerkJ talk 15:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Awesome. I plan on making a Facebook page today or sometime during this week. I might also create a separate Twitter account for the Wiki site (using DramaWiki as the name of the Twitter Page). Do you mind if I use a separate Twitter account for the Wiki?
Do you agree that the name of the page on Facebook and Twitter should be called: DramaWiki? --Msmall92 (talk) 16:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah it should be "DramaWiki" if possible. The facebook name seems to be available. But, there exists already an old unused Twitter account. I don't know if it is possible to get that account. Maybe by contacting the owner? There exists an inactive account policy. But it may be difficult to "take over" the account because "DramaWiki" isn't a registered trademark. Another way could be to report an account for impersonation. But "@drama_wiki" is also ok for the beginning. It looks like you can change the twitter name later. --MoerkJ talk 18:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Just want to find out more about vandalism on Dramawiki

I recently came across the list of blocked users, and I saw some of them were blocked for vandalism. Can you explain further to me what actions are considered "vandalism" on Dramawiki? --Kotomi1994 (talk) 19:10, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, on our help page we just link to the Wikipedia article on vandalism. The first paragraph of that article explains it well. Generally we regard "destroying of pages" by removing content or adding nonsense or spam as vandalism. However vandalism has not been an issue anymore since we restricted the new user registration in 2009.
P.S. To sign your messages on talk pages you only need to move your cursor to the end of your text message and click the signature button in the edit menu. See Help:Signature for more. --MoerkJ talk 22:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

New Member - dhisashi

I hope that I can contribute something. A bit busy right now. I do Income Tax returns.

Separate page for Ratings

Hello, I've notice that most of the rating is in separate page. Is it the norm here or can I put it on the same page? Since the page is not too crowded I think it'd be nicer to have it together in one place. Thanks --Sonflower (talk) 11:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

When we collect the tv ratings for airing dramas then we do that usually on a separate page. The basic idea of separating the minor edits for the episode ratings from the actual drama page edits was/is to keep the edit history for the drama page short and clear. The ratings subpage can be transcluded into the base page later. I had planned to create templates which assist this transclusion technique. As far as I know, we've been using the subpages for Korean dramas only. It especially makes sense for longer running series. If you want to add the complete ratings for a (finished) drama with one edit for example then there is no need to create a separate subpage, IMHO. --MoerkJ talk 13:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Kill Me, Heal Me

Hi, regarding what happened, I couldn't really understand because I clearly remembered that it was removed or maybe I was mistaken it with another page. I admit in deleting it but if I already deleted it, why is the upload date still December when she would have to re-upload the picture that I deleted? Does it mean that she undo my edit and that is why the upload date was still the same? But is there a possibility that the picture got fixed instead of not being removed at all because I really couldn't recall what exactly happened and of course there is a possibility that I accidentally deleted it but there really isn't a reason why I would delete it for no reason... And how can a person know that the picture was removed before because on the previous poster picture which was supossingly removed is still there working just fine and there wasn't anything on the file history that could prove that the picture was removed... I'm sorry but I am not trying to be mean. I just wanted to know exactly why and what really happened. The explanations given by her are a little too hard to understand so I couldn't catch what she was trying to say. Please help. Thanks! --Alyviagan (talk)

Technically you haven't deleted anything. You just edited the link to the picture into a non-working one. Helena just corrected the link to what it was before your edit. And she didn't re-uploaded the correlation chart image. Helena was talking about re-uploading and changing the poster image. In case you didn't know, editors cannot delete anything, but can only change/edit the content of the pages. All saved edits are stored as versions of a wikipage and can be viewed in the page's history. This way bad edits can be identified and easily reverted. Only a few administrators can delete pages and files from DramaWiki. Also all deletions are logged.
Maybe you saw a different picture and got confused. This could be because we had a little configuration problem some weeks ago. Due to a bad webserver configuration our CloudFlare proxy served wrongly cached pictures (i.e. this one showing a text message) instead of the real images from our webserver. The issue had been fixed and you should see the correct images. --MoerkJ talk 21:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your reply. And yes, that was exactly what I meant! The poster picture and the correlation chart picture turned to that picture showing a text message so I thought the picture could no longer be used which is why I changed the poster picture to a new one and edited out the file name from the page until I found a new one. So basically, does it mean that the main problem wasn't the picture but the bad webserver configuration and that once it is fixed, all pictures will return to normal? --Alyviagan (talk)

Yes, it was a configuration problem. No images were broken or got lost. It has been reported and fixed several weeks ago. If you still see that text message instead of the real images then try clearing or bypassing your browser cache. --MoerkJ talk 06:12, 12 April 2015 (UTC)