User talk:Groink/Archive 2 - Revision history

Skyblue at 06:36, 7 April 2007

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Groink at 23:14, 5 April 2007

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Skyblue at 19:41, 5 April 2007

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Groink at 20:33, 1 April 2007

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Groink at 20:33, 1 April 2007

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Magicus at 19:21, 1 April 2007

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Magicus at 04:23, 31 March 2007

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Groink at 21:12, 28 March 2007

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Mei at 19:33, 28 March 2007

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Groink at 03:28, 28 March 2007

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	What do you do when the artist has no link? Omit them? Or I've to create a page for every new artist name I add??		What do you do when the artist has no link? Omit them? Or I've to create a page for every new artist name I add??
	:This rule only pertains to artist articles that exist. It would be nice for you to create a page for every new artist, as this is the nature of a wiki - attempt to create articles that are missing. But it isn't a requirement. The reason I wrote the above warning is that when I saw your artist additions to the drama article, I did not see that drama listed in those newly-added artist articles, even though those artist articles exist. Take for example [[Umemiya Anna]]. Upon inspection, I do not see a link to [[Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi#Season 3\|Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi 3]]. That is what I mean by being incomplete in your updates. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 18:14, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)		:This rule only pertains to artist articles that exist. It would be nice for you to create a page for every new artist, as this is the nature of a wiki - attempt to create articles that are missing. But it isn't a requirement. The reason I wrote the above warning is that when I saw your artist additions to the drama article, I did not see that drama listed in those newly-added artist articles, even though those artist articles exist. Take for example [[Umemiya Anna]]. Upon inspection, I do not see a link to [[Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi#Season 3\|Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi 3]]. That is what I mean by being incomplete in your updates. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 18:14, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)
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		+	== Answers to "Read each one 100 times if you have to" ==
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		+	You said ''"Dramas within an artist profile are listed in descending order. You stuck Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi on the bottom of each list, when it should have been near or at the top."''
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		+	You mean in descending ALPHABETICAL order? I think it makes more sense to list dramas in '''CHRONOLOGICAL''' order.
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		+	You said ''"Birthdate" and NOT "Date of birth".''
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		+	I was just following the practice used here. Don't believe me? Well, click on those artist links on [[Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi]]'s page. For instance, [[Takahashi Katsunori]], [[Ebihara Yuri]], [[Sakurai Atsuko]]... want me to go on?? I pasted Sakurai Atsuko's profile here for your reference.
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		+	Profile
		+	* Name: 櫻井淳子 / Sakurai Atsuko
		+	* Profession: Actress
		+	* Date of Birth: 05 January 1973
		+	* Birthplace: Saitama prefecture
		+	* Height: 162cm
		+	* Weight: 46kg
		+	* Star Sign: Capricorn
		+	* Blood Type: A
		+	* Talent Agency:
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		+	By the way, the term "Date of Birth" is commonly used in places like Japan and Hong Kong.
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		+	You said "''The kanji on one of the actresses was incorrect (Ozawa Maria).''"
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		+	My kanji is '''CORRECT''', but if you want to use Katakana, this is okay to me. However, majority of users here have non-Japanese origins, I think more people will understand if I translate those Japanese Katakana into Chinese kanji. Also, notice that on Sakurai Atsuko's profile, the name is 櫻井淳子, which are Chinese kanji. If you are that strict, replace all Chinese kanji with Japanese kanji. In the above example, 櫻井淳子 should be 桜井淳子(Japanese Kanji).
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		+	You said ''"Do not include body measurements of an actress (B/W/H). Include only height and weight."''
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		+	Body measurements of an actress are widely publicized information in Japan's media, just like blood type and birthplace. In case you don't know, body measurements statistics are commonly found in Wikipedia.
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		+	You said ''"You did not categorize any of the new articles you created. You're supposed to add <nowiki>[[Category:JActress]]</nowiki> for actresses, <nowiki>[[Category:JActor]]</nowiki> for actors, etc."''
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		+	I will give you a quote from DramaWiki's main page: "Don't be afraid about layout or formatting. Information is the important factor for this site; other more experienced users can always clean up the format of a page for you."
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		+	You said "And once more, you forgot to add Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi to many of the artists you added. I spent 30 minutes cleaning that mess up.'' "
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		+	I spent more than 3 HOURS to contribute information here, and I created the artist pages as you requested. However, I only do things step by step, when I have some more important things to do, I will stop and leave it until I come next time. '''As an editor, isn't editing and correcting mistakes YOUR JOB?'''
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		+	You said ''"Just like Wikipedia, we're VERY strict about how articles are organized, written, and maintained."''
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		+	If so, go ahead and correct ALL the artist profiles the way you want. Please be reasonable. DON'T JUST PICK ON ME!
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		+	'''"Everyone is welcome to contribute here and add any information they may know about certain dramas or artists."'''(quoted from main page)''' You owe me an apology, but it is fine if you just say "thanks".

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	What do you do when the artist has no link? Omit them? Or I've to create a page for every new artist name I add??		What do you do when the artist has no link? Omit them? Or I've to create a page for every new artist name I add??
		+	:This rule only pertains to artist articles that exist. It would be nice for you to create a page for every new artist, as this is the nature of a wiki - attempt to create articles that are missing. But it isn't a requirement. The reason I wrote the above warning is that when I saw your artist additions to the drama article, I did not see that drama listed in those newly-added artist articles, even though those artist articles exist. Take for example [[Umemiya Anna]]. Upon inspection, I do not see a link to [[Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi#Season 3\|Tokumei Kakarichou Tadano Hitoshi 3]]. That is what I mean by being incomplete in your updates. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 18:14, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)

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	Sorry groink, I have been under the assumption that they were divorced for the past year for some reason and you just officially blew my mind by making me aware of this. I'll change them both.		Sorry groink, I have been under the assumption that they were divorced for the past year for some reason and you just officially blew my mind by making me aware of this. I'll change them both.
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		+	== Artists link back ==
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		+	You said "We don't allow additions of artists names without having the artists link back. Not doing so within a reasonable amount of time will result in reversal of your edits."
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		+	What do you do when the artist has no link? Omit them? Or I've to create a page for every new artist name I add??

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 *[[User talk:Groink/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
 So if I am not able to write the kanji should I be bothering to even update screenwriters / composer pages? I don't think I should be using a translator program since those are pretty unreliable and I can't really think of any other way around figuring out how to write there names in kanji. Thanks in advance.
 :According to the guidelines, if you leave an artist article incomplete (incomplete meaning you left out critical information, such as the kanji, categories, or the drama list is empty), you should tag it with the appropriate stub depending on the artist's profession, such as <nowiki>{{jactor-stub}}, {{jactress-stub}}, {{jproducer-stub}}, {{jwriter-stub}} or {{jsinger-stub}}</nowiki>. Once the article is tagged correctly, someone like myself can come along and catch the stubbed article. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 15:33, 1 Apr 2007 (CDT)

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	So if I am not able to write the kanji should I be bothering to even update screenwriters / composer pages? I don't think I should be using a translator program since those are pretty unreliable and I can't really think of any other way around figuring out how to write there names in kanji. Thanks in advance.		So if I am not able to write the kanji should I be bothering to even update screenwriters / composer pages? I don't think I should be using a translator program since those are pretty unreliable and I can't really think of any other way around figuring out how to write there names in kanji. Thanks in advance.
		+	:According to the guidelines, if you leave an artist article incomplete (incomplete meaning you left out critical information, such as the kanji, categories, or the drama list is empty), you should tag it with the appropriate stub depending on the artist's profession, such as <nowiki>{{jactor-stub}}, {{jactress-stub}}, {{jproducer-stub}}, {{jwriter-stub}} or {{jsinger-stub}}</nowiki>. Once the article is tagged correctly, someone like myself can come along and catch the stubbed article. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 15:33, 1 Apr 2007 (CDT)

	== Question on copyrights... ==		== Question on copyrights... ==

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 *[[User talk:Groink/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
 == Question on copyrights... ==

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	Hello, I noticed that you added season 2 for Smiling Pasta. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I would like to know the source of the season 2? Because I have searched among many Chinese resources and none of them indicate that there will be a seaon 2.		Hello, I noticed that you added season 2 for Smiling Pasta. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I would like to know the source of the season 2? Because I have searched among many Chinese resources and none of them indicate that there will be a seaon 2.
	:Read the talk page for [[Smiling Pasta]] for an explanation. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 16:12, 28 Mar 2007 (CDT)		:Read the talk page for [[Smiling Pasta]] for an explanation. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 16:12, 28 Mar 2007 (CDT)
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		+	Sorry groink, I have been under the assumption that they were divorced for the past year for some reason and you just officially blew my mind by making me aware of this. I'll change them both.

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	Hello, I noticed that you added season 2 for Smiling Pasta. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I would like to know the source of the season 2? Because I have searched among many Chinese resources and none of them indicate that there will be a seaon 2.		Hello, I noticed that you added season 2 for Smiling Pasta. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I would like to know the source of the season 2? Because I have searched among many Chinese resources and none of them indicate that there will be a seaon 2.
		+	:Read the talk page for [[Smiling Pasta]] for an explanation. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 16:12, 28 Mar 2007 (CDT)

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	Can you please tell me how ''Goong S'' would be related to ''Goong''? I have been following the legal issues since the beginning and both dramas are NOT related to each other in anyways besides the similar plot. (That is why ''Goong S'' is no longer ''Goong S'' but it is now named ''Prince Who''.) If you can find any OFFICIAL statement from MBC or Group 8 about Goong S being related to ''Goong'', then I would drop the issue. I seriously do not want other people reading misleading information and getting themselves confused as to if ''Goong S'' is really the sequel, which is is not. -- ''unsigned by [[User:Aquafina\|Aquafina]] ([[:User_talk:Aquafina\|Talk]])''		Can you please tell me how ''Goong S'' would be related to ''Goong''? I have been following the legal issues since the beginning and both dramas are NOT related to each other in anyways besides the similar plot. (That is why ''Goong S'' is no longer ''Goong S'' but it is now named ''Prince Who''.) If you can find any OFFICIAL statement from MBC or Group 8 about Goong S being related to ''Goong'', then I would drop the issue. I seriously do not want other people reading misleading information and getting themselves confused as to if ''Goong S'' is really the sequel, which is is not. -- ''unsigned by [[User:Aquafina\|Aquafina]] ([[:User_talk:Aquafina\|Talk]])''
	:Note that we use the terminology "related series". We are not saying that the two dramas contain the same casting or writers. We associate two dramas if the two have very similar genre and/or very similar storylines. For example, in the Japanese drama area, it is not unusual for us to say that two jidaigeki dramas are "related" seeing they both are in the same era, both have very similar storylines, and other similaries, even though the two are aired on two completely different networks, written by two totally different people, and the characters are totally different. That's what your problem is - you're mis-interpreting the use of "related series" on DramaWiki. Believe me - it is you fans who are confusing the issue on your blog sites; DramaWiki is NOT contributing to the confusion. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 22:23, 27 Mar 2007 (CDT)		:Note that we use the terminology "related series". We are not saying that the two dramas contain the same casting or writers. We associate two dramas if the two have very similar genre and/or very similar storylines. For example, in the Japanese drama area, it is not unusual for us to say that two jidaigeki dramas are "related" seeing they both are in the same era, both have very similar storylines, and other similaries, even though the two are aired on two completely different networks, written by two totally different people, and the characters are totally different. That's what your problem is - you're mis-interpreting the use of "related series" on DramaWiki. Believe me - it is you fans who are confusing the issue on your blog sites; DramaWiki is NOT contributing to the confusion. [[User:Groink\|Groink]] 22:23, 27 Mar 2007 (CDT)
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		+	== Smiling Pasta ==
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		+	Hello, I noticed that you added season 2 for Smiling Pasta. I'm not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I would like to know the source of the season 2? Because I have searched among many Chinese resources and none of them indicate that there will be a seaon 2.

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 == "Goong S" is not related to "Goong" ==
-[quote] Goong 2
+"Stop removing Goong S from the article. Goong, Goong S, and Goong 2 are all related series. Groink 02:52, 16 Mar 2007 (CDT)"
-Stop removing Goong S from the article. Goong, Goong S, and Goong 2 are all related series. Groink 02:52, 16 Mar 2007 (CDT) [/quote]
+Can you please tell me how ''Goong S'' would be related to ''Goong''? I have been following the legal issues since the beginning and both dramas are NOT related to each other in anyways besides the similar plot. (That is why ''Goong S'' is no longer ''Goong S'' but it is now named ''Prince Who''.) If you can find any OFFICIAL statement from MBC or Group 8 about Goong S being related to ''Goong'', then I would drop the issue. I seriously do not want other people reading misleading information and getting themselves confused as to if ''Goong S'' is really the sequel, which is is not. -- ''unsigned by [[User:Aquafina|Aquafina]] ([[:User_talk:Aquafina|Talk]])''
+:Note that we use the terminology "related series". We are not saying that the two dramas contain the same casting or writers. We associate two dramas if the two have very similar genre and/or very similar storylines. For example, in the Japanese drama area, it is not unusual for us to say that two jidaigeki dramas are "related" seeing they both are in the same era, both have very similar storylines, and other similaries, even though the two are aired on two completely different networks, written by two totally different people, and the characters are totally different. That's what your problem is - you're mis-interpreting the use of "related series" on DramaWiki. Believe me - it is you fans who are confusing the issue on your blog sites; DramaWiki is NOT contributing to the confusion. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 22:23, 27 Mar 2007 (CDT)