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DramaWiki Templates

Hrm which one do you think is better.

template 1:

TV Drama Actor Actress Singer Director Script Writer

or

template 2:

TV Drama

Actor

Actress

Singer

Director

Script Writer

or plain vanilla:

Actor | Actress | Singer | Producer | Director | Writer | OST

TV Drama:	0–9 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

I think plain vanilla looks best.
How about adding a 'drama a-z' to the end of the list? --egx

Hmm, I like template2 or the vanilla because this way the mainpage gets more "compact".
And regarding the 'drama a-z'... from what I've understood you can only create a TOC of a category on the category page itself. That's why you cannot put the TOCs on the main page. Our old indexes were manually created ones. But with the help of the categories the wiki will generate now all the lists for us. Much easier, IMHO.   --MoerkJ^{✎ me a msg} 11:26, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

I think it should be possible to write a function to get the 'a-z' part created by a script too. --egx

This better? --Ruroshin 18:13, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

Actor | Actress | Singer | Producer | Director | Writer | OST

TV Drama:	0–9 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

Hmm, very confusing all this. But it seems to work somehow. Just two little things:

1. I couldn't remove the border. (perhaps defined via class="toccolours plainlinks" ???)
2. without the {{NAMESPACE}} tags the CountryTable3template works even on the talkpages. I just changed it for letter "N" because I don't know why it is needed.   --MoerkJ ✎ ^{me a msg} 19:11, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

I like the border heh but yeah to get rid o it you remove the class. Yeah the NAMESPACE probably isn't needed because no namespace defined. I just copied it from wikipedia and modified it to work for categories outside the category page. --Ruroshin 19:21, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

Script Writer

Something a bit unrelated to the discussion going here... Apparently, scriptwriter or screenwriter are correct and script writer (notice the space) is not. Which one would you prefer?

scriptwriter - n : someone who writes scripts for plays or movies or broadcast dramas

seems good to me, lets go with that --Ruroshin 08:44, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

hmm, I'd prefer just "Writer" because there are different kind of writing, e.g. story writing, screen writing, etc. These things are completely different procedures and can be done by different people. The screen writing is more a technical process which involves the provision of instructions for the actors and film crew. I'm not really sure but I think that in many cases the screen writing is done by other persons and the credits are more story writing related. But of course some writers do everything (story and screen writing). Just look at IMDb.com for examples. They give very detailed credits for who did which writing (original novel, adaptation for screen, story writing, additional writing etc.). So I think we should just stick to "Writer" when unsure. The original websites of the studios I visited don't give more specific info either. The same for Director/Producer. The often the sites credit "Producer" and not "Director". A director can be hired by a producer and the work can differ again. But in most cases I believe the producers also do the directing in TV productions. I use the credits as they are given on the original pages. Producer and Writer are more general terms, IMHO. Just my 2 cents. --MoerkJ 12:55, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Why not indian/pakistani drama's

Indian drama series are very colourful and usually feature the latest fashion trends and advertise some as well. They are like normal series where the script is decided per episode.. There's like a new wave in the indian drama scene .. of social dramas .. by Ekta Kapoor

Pakistani dramas are quite well known as they are adaptations of novels, epic like stories and dramas written by contemporary writers. Some of them have the element of standup comedy.

Get your own Wiki. Why invade in someone else's Wiki? Because DramaWiki generates a ton more hits everyday than other sites? Groink 18:58, 2 Oct 2006 (EDT)

I THINK IT MUST BE CHANGED INTO "EAST ASIAN" DRAMAWIKI"

Your only focusing into east asian dramas. It's not the whole asia thou. There are more popular dramas in asia like FILIPINO DRAMAS, INDIAN, MALAYSIANS, INDONESIANS... I agree he have to get his own wiki.. It wont work..

I am an Indonesian and frankly, I agree with the above statement. If you focus on East Asian Drama, you should said East Asian Dramawiki, not Asian Dramawiki. Asia is larger than East Asia, you know.

Second things, you put Singaporean Drama to this wiki. Yeah, I know lot of Singaporean speak Mandarin and Hokkien. However, it is still a south-east asian countries which also consist of non-eastern language speaker. When one day they had dramas which is not in eastern language (like Tamil, Hindi, or Malay), will you consider them to be included in your wiki?

This site also put Agnes Monica as Taiwanese Actress categories instead of Indonesian actress. C'mon!!! What would you feel if someone from Hollywood said Bruce Lee was an american actor? What would you feel if someone from America said Chow Yun Fat is an American actor? What if one day, Agnes Monica play in Hongkong Drama? Would you put her as Hongkong Actress, also?

In the past, Cynthia Rothrock starred in many HK movies. Would you say she was a HK actress? Have you understood the problem I saw? Kunderemp 04:39, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

I've just look at Michelle Yeoh entry on wikipedia and it was said she was 'Hongkong based' actress. Kunderemp 04:47, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

I can't help but laugh at this. First, it isn't called "______ DramaWiki" - it is called "DramaWiki." Second, you do not know the history of D-Addicts, the parent web site that sponsors DramaWiki. From Day 1, the focus on D-Addicts has always been: Chinese, Taiwanese, Singaporean, Korean and Japanese. D-Addicts relects this, and therefore DramaWiki reflects this. If you people are so animate about promoting other Asian TV dramas, go start your own web site!!!!!! It is like me running a Windows web site with Linux and Macintosh people trying to force me to support them as well. Every web site has a right to draw the line when it comes to content. Respect this rather than arguing about it. Groink 05:06, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

WHY NOT INCLUDE FILIPINO DRAMA?

They have the best drama in asia. Award winning actors (INTERNATIONALLY) and award winning soap operas (INTERNATIONALLY) Stories are interesting and can relate into everyones life. Teleseryes and fantaseryes are now spreading thru asia and latin americas. And Pangako Sa'yo got the highest rating in southeast asia.

This wiki is exclusively for East Asian dramas, you can notice that there are no South East Asian dramas in here. Hopefully, some one can create a South East Asian drama wiki, and that would include not only Filipino dramas, but also Malaysian, Indonesian, etc. Marienella

Navigation Bar, Searches + Forums

Wasn't sure where to put all this, so the talk page of the homepage seems the most appropriate. First off, hi all! I just joined to post one synop (though I'm sure I'll find more to add as time goes on), however I did have some suggestions for the site.

• Put the wiki search above the Google search on the navigation bar. I, like I'm sure others, tried using the Google search to find things on the wiki only to find this wouldn't work (as well); and scrolling down to type in the wiki search is just inconveniant (did I mention I can't spell without a spellcheck?) and having it below all the ads and other things, away from the important links hides it.
• Put a "Wiki" section to the forums for wiki related inquiries, announcements, and random other wiki related talks. I first went to the forum to see if there was a place for this kind of post, but found there was none (or if there was I didn't see it...).

Anyways, those are my two suggestions for the wiki. Cya around! KawasakiNinja 11:14, 13 Jul 2007 (CDT)

1. We prefer people to use Google over the Wiki search. This is to save on CPU usage on the server. Google bots through DramaWiki on a regular basis, so searches are very complete. 2. You can find the forum link for DramaWiki under Current events on the left column of any DramaWiki page. Groink 13:33, 13 Jul 2007 (CDT)

1. Makes sense I guess. Never hosted a site/wiki before, so don't know exactly all the numbers around that. How much extra usage is taken up by using the wiki search vs. linking to it through google? Or even using the google search, does that use up the server the wiki's on? Just curious.

2. The link is above, not under. But I was refering to having a section of the Forum for talking about wiki stuff. Unless you're all fine with having discussions like this going on the main page talk, then I guess there's no real need. But it might make it easier for people to use the forum when discussing things about the wiki, making any announcements the admins might want to make, or just general wiki related questions. Again though, not sure how much general talk you get for the wiki. KawasakiNinja 11:45, 14 Jul 2007 (CDT)

By under "Current events" he doesn't mean literally under it. If you click current events, it'll take you to the page with the link to the DramaWiki discussion on d-addicts. --Pineapple 13:29, 14 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Ah, cool. I was thinking a full section instead of just one thread (makes it a little easier to organize) but still good that it's there. :) KawasakiNinja 11:15, 15 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Create Redirects

I was wondering if there was a policy on redirects for alternate titles of a series, or seasons of a series. I just added a redirect from "Kikujiro to Saki 3" to the main article at "Kikujiro to Saki 2007." I can think of other examples ("Jikou Keisatsu 2" or "Kaette Kita Jikou Keisatsu" should redirect to "Jikou Keisatsu"), but I'm wondering why this hasn't been done already. -- Quashlo 11:51, 15 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Romanization

After seeing the whole thing with the splitting of separate sentence particles, I have some general questions/suggestions about Romanization. For example, I would have Romanized the title for Benkyo Shiteitai! as Benkyo Shite Itai!, separating the -te form of the verb from the iru/itai/etc. Another similar example of this is Aishiteiru to Ittekure (Aishite Iru to Itte Kure for me). Other questionable (at least for me) Romanizations include Uchi ni Oideyo (should be Uchi ni Oide yo). And with respect to wapuro vs. non-wapuro, if we are not allowing names of dramas and actors/actresses to be in wapuro, I think it would be a good idea to at least have a wapuro entry that redirects to the main entry. For actors and actresses, many times I have to "guess" how they Romanize things... If we always have a wapuro entry, then if you know at least a little bit of Japanese, you will always be able to get to the entry. So just a few suggestions... I'm interested in hearing what others feel. -- Quashlo 21:28, 26 Jul 2007 (CDT)

I agree with most of the points. The redirects using wapuro romaji, however is something I disagree on. Although it does in theory help in searching, there are two points that have me go against this idea.

1. Each re-direct article adds onto the MySQL database. The database is already lagging as-is. We shouldn't be using redirects except for situations where there are mistakes. IMHO, once no article within DramaWiki uses a redirect, it should be removed.
2. If you read through the various magazines, CDs, DVDs, catalogs and such, the large majority of them use romaji without the macrons. YesAsia doesn't use wapuro, and neither does CD Japan. Even TV networks like NHK as well as professional subtitle systems like TV Japan use our system. Wapuro was never meant to be a standard, and Wikipedia touches on this fact. Wapuro, historically, was a poor way of compensating for typewriters that couldn't generate the macrons. Therefore, DramaWiki considers wapuro to be a mistake. We should be changing how Internet visitors romanize the artists' names, rather than creating band-aids for those who are still stuck on wapuro. Groink 21:39, 26 Jul 2007 (CDT)

External Links

How about if linking Chinese Wikipedia and Korean Wikipedia under the external links as well. --uladelz 21:55, 1 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Only the admins are allowed to edit the main page. We'll have to wait for one of them to do so. Groink 22:36, 1 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Featured Article

i have suggestion, why don't we put some Featured Article about artiste or drama in main page that change every week/2 weeks/ month thx you

Adding categories to articles

Please do not - I REPEAT DO NOT add categories to any part of an article EXCEPT for the bottom of the article. I see some people repeatedly adding category wikilinks to TV network names in the details section. This is NOT wanted, and is not part of DramaWiki style. Placing in categories for the same data TWICE adds to the processing of the server, and is also non-productive as it adds NOTHING to the articles. I want this to come to a stop IMMEDIATELY!!!! Groink 17:35, 5 Jan 2008 (CST)