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Like a Flowing River

Here is some of the TV Show's air dates from it's web site... --Imian 22:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

It seems the site I was reading off got the air dates switched around. I've revised them to reflect the info from the official site. Thanks for the help, Imian. --Hanjae 02:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Imagery

There's this other user who keeps changing images on articles. You probably know who it is. The newest image on this article Everybody Cha Cha Cha, I believe the image is just a copy of the website saved and uploaded because if you look closely that little tv box shows preview scenes for upcoming episodes. I'm probably making a big deal out of nothing. The new image is clearer and larger than the original one. --C51236 04:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's definitely screencapped from the official website. That TV box and the website links up the top are glaringly obvious. The poster you uploaded was better, since it's the official one, but since you mentioned it's not as large as the new one, I've taken the liberty of finding a high res version of the original poster and replacing her upload with that. I'm not sure why said user insists on replacing images at random, but most of her edits have been unnecessary and the images she provides are often worse than the previous one. She obviously ignored my advice (and yours) left on her talk page, though, so I'm not sure what we can do except revert/replace the bad ones. --Hanjae 04:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to find a high resolution version of the original poster. No I understand what you're saying, some images uploaded are wallpapers and not official posters. The user has replaced official posters with other official posters. I didn't see any problems with the first ones such as Temptation of an Angel and Creating Destiny. But I feel more like a babysitter checking loads of pages to see if any major changes have been made. Oh well there's nothing we can do. I've found two official posters for Smile, You but am hesitant to upload it because another user had uploaded one of them and it was reverted back because another user thought that the current one is the official poster but it's really not. The current one is kinda screencapped from the official website as well. What do you think? --C51236 05:14 2 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem! Yeah, it's a bit of a headache to check the Recent Changes and see 10+ edits from the user for the same page (e.g. Hi My Sweetheart), and the only difference is a change of image which isn't even necessarily good. Hmm, I'm not sure about Smile, You. What official posters do you have? I'm fine with the current one since I've seen it used on various Korean websites, but if you think there's a better one out there, go for it! Sometimes they release much better posters late into the drama's release. --Hanjae 05:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

WOW! I'm usually not lurking around Taiwanese dramas so I hadn't notice. You could mostly find me at Korean dramas but WHOA lots of changes.. you're on Soompi right? well if you're ever at the Smile, You thread there, the image that had been previously uploaded is on the first post. It has the lead actress grabbing the collar of the lead guy and everybody else is looking on. It was reverted back because it wasn't clear or something. The one that I have is different in that it's the whole family and the two leads on opposite sides with bubbles over their heads and it has a background of a house similar to the one on soompi. I'll upload the image to Soompi so you could see for yourself (unless the thread moves too fast then it'll be some pages back). I'll probably leave the image on Wiki as is for now. --C51236

Just took a look at both images on Soompi, and I like how both of them have the whole family on the poster instead of just Jung In and Hyun Soo! Some might think it's a bit crowded, but I personally think it's okay. I'll leave it up to you whether you want to replace the Wiki image as well, though, since I'm fine with it either way. --Hanjae 06:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Editing questions

Since we both do alot of editing, there are bound to be few minor collisions. Are you open for discussion? --Imian 10:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, what do you suggest? --Hanjae 11:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

First topic - naming external sites like movie.naver.com/ or movie.daum.net/, Are you open using the format Naver movie site and Daum movie site instead of Naver TV Profile / Daum TV Profile ...and for consistancy in actor profiles, using a lower case d (e.g. Profile (daum)) for the website name? Back in 2008 everyone was doing their own thing Thanks. --Imian 16:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy to use "Naver movie site" and "Daum movie site" from now on instead of TV Profile; I've thought about this before, actually, and didn't think the latter sounded that good, but no alternatives sprung to mind immediately. How about the tv.media.daum.net/ pages, though? I've been using Daum TV Zone for those, but if you have any other options, let me know. Or perhaps we should just use "Daum movie site" for that as well? I've used Profile (Daum) consistently across all articles so far, but you make a good point there. I'll switch to lowercase for that as well. --Hanjae 17:34, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...I just looked at Daum TV Zone via Creating Destiny link...I didn't notice any reference to Creating Destiny, but I can't read korean that well (the site looked like its content is regularly changed.) Anyway "Daum TV Zone" sounds good.
Different topic - You did a really great job on the "King and Queen" article, especially with each actor's role into english. I had thought that the title "King and Rain" was a bit off but it literal translation was correct. Also thanks for finding the title "You Don't Know My Mind". I had been looking for it. --Imian 19:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

From what I noticed, the TV Zone page is a collectives of news articles and posts on the Creating Destiny board by fans, polls, and such. And re: King and Queen; thanks! Yes, 비 can mean both rain or queen/consort. I'm a bit more familiar with historical dramas and Joseon history, so I've been concentrating on those for the moment. I'm thinking of tackling Hong Guk Young or Jo Gwang Jo next. You've done a lot of great work with old modern dramas, too! --Hanjae 05:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

TV Show names

Have you come across these shows' english name? 두근두근 체인지 (Change)?? or 왕룽의 대지 (Wang Rung's Land)??
Different question: Do you use DramaWiki's What links here when editing? --Imian 15:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I've never heard of them, but 두근두근 체인지 is pretty straightforward; it translates to "Exciting Change." And "Wang Rung's Land" is about right, I think. I googled around and also found it literally translated to "Wang Rung's Great Farm Land", which you can put under "also known as."
Re: What links here, I use it regularly, but most often when I'm creating a new actor page or updating a drama page with a big cast - it can be pretty helpful since others may have forgotten to link both ways. When the actor has as long a list of works as someone like Shin Goo, there'll be massive gaps.

More TV show names

Hello again - Can I get your insight on these TV Show names? Thanks

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덕이 - Duk / Duk Yi / Virtue?
이별없는 아침 - Farewell?
외출 - Outing / Leave?

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--Imian 02:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure! Here we go.

- 덕이 / Duk Yi - Virtue

- 이별없는 아침 / Ibyeoreomneun Achim - Closest would be "Morning Without Parting." I also found a 1989 American movie titled "See You in the Morning" with that Korean title on Daum, so you could probably put that under alternative titles. Morning Without Parting is more literal.

- 외출 / Oechul - Outing

--Hanjae 04:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info - Happy that you came aboard the DramaWiki - Some names like "Well Known Woman" worry me. --Imian 04:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

No problem, glad I could help with my limited Korean, haha! Re: "Well-Known Woman", I think it's fine. I've also seen it translated as "Popular Woman" or "Famous Woman", which more or less mean the same thing. --Hanjae 04:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hanjae - Your help please on a TV show name 홀이냐 짝이냐 and yet another one with too many choices I Like It Like That /Joa Joa /Okay Okay /Good Good /All Right, All Right 좋아 좋아. thanks --Imian 02:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the belated reply! I'm not too sure about "홀이냐 짝이냐" - the only thing I could find was a dictionary definition for the phrase, which listed it as "Odd and/or Even." Supposedly the name of a game?

I see "Good Good" used most often for 좋아 좋아, so we can go with this or use "Great Great" / "Like it Like it" (or any other similar words) for "Good" if you think it sounds clunky. "All Right, All Right" doesn't seem to convey the right levity of tone. --Hanjae 06:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Again thanks - I will work on these some more. --Imian 02:56, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Kurt Chou = Kurt Zhou

A page was previously created for him. Please always check before you create a new artist page. In the mean time, I'll merge those two. --WaterOB 15:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I only noticed afterwards when I looked at the Black & White page and was super embarrassed. The Google search tool didn't bring up any info for Kurt Zhou when I entered his Chinese name, so I thought he didn't have an article. Thanks for fixing it up. --Hanjae 16:19, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Gloria

I'm very sorry because my computer loads not that so fast, that's why i didn't upload GLORIA POSTER immediately: Sorry Once Again....--Jacquesdurias 10:55, 31 July 2010

Production credits for Kim Won Suk (writer)

I had checked & double check, because it looked fishy, but I believe Kim Won Suk (writer) is both the screenwriter & a director for Friend, Our Legend. He has 2 credits (one in each category) in his Daum profile , while Kim Won Suk (director) has no credits for Friend, Our Legend in his Daum & Nate profile. Can you check again? Thanks --Imian 01:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I've been confused about that for a while, too. I've checked HanCinema, Daum, Naver and Movie.naver.com, and every site seems to have something different. HanCinema has the director Kim Won Suk credited for both direction and script, while Daum has the writer Kim Won Suk credited for both. The director doesn't have Friend on his Naver profile either, but it's on his Movie.naver.com profile, and when I checked the long review MisterX wrote for Friend, Our Legend, he credited director Kim Won Suk as co-director for Friend. I'm really not sure which site to believe anymore. Perhaps we should decide on one source for both director and writer and go with that? --Hanjae 02:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Here is some of the things I looked at - Kim Won Suk (director)'s KBS drama "Pardner" was shown from 24 Jun - 13 Aug 09, and in general, PD usually work with one production company. Kim Won Suk (director) had also worked on Dae Wang Se Jong, 18 VS 29, "as the river flows". all by KBS.
"Friend, our legend" aired around the same time 27 Jun - 30 Aug 09 and was co-directed by Kwak Kyung Taek (who also got screenwriter credits). I think that these two writers got together and worked on the script and then co-directed the drama. Kwak Kyung Taek probably had options on the story since he did the movie version "Friends".
All this is my own reasoning - If I had better command of hangul I would ask the question on Daum or Nate. --Imian 05:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense; directors do tend to stick with one broadcaster. I guess it's safe enough to assume that Kim Won Suk (writer) also gets the director credits for "Friend", then. --Hanjae 06:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Lee Young Suk

The article, Lee Young Suk, who was born in 1959, has been tagged for deletion. The reason is there was a mistake in which Lee Young Suk played Oh Jung Woo in Mom is Pretty Too. The actual one was the one born in 1987. If you go to the Mom is Pretty Too page, the character, Jung Woo, is in the green vest. Obviously that young kid is not Lee Young Suk (1959). An artist that does not have a drama to his credit cannot have a page on wiki. If you find that LYS (1959) has a drama credit to his name, then feel free to change it.--C51236 19:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

You're right. That information had not been released at the time his page was created, but it's pretty clear now from the correlation chart that Oh Jung Woo is a young man of 25! Thanks for noticing the oversight. --Hanjae 04:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Three SBS Shows

Hi...I need your insight once more...I am trying to figure out the names of 3 SBS shows...This is what I found so far...
이 남자가 사는 법 How to Live With Men / Rules Men Live By / Rules for Living With Men (SBS 1994-03-02 to 1994-08-18)
이 여자가 사는 법 How to Live With Women / Rules Women Live By / Rules for Living With Women (SBS 1994-10-08 to 1995-05-01)
이 부부가 사는 법 How Married Couples Live / Rules Couples Live By / Rules for Living as Husband and Wife (SBS 2001-10-08 to 2003-03-29)
Any help from you (or anyone reading this) is really appreciated. Thanks --Imian 08:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Translated literally, it should be "This Man's Way of Living", though you can substitute synonyms for "way" (법 means rules/law/method). So the rest would be "This Woman's Way of Living" and "This Couple's Way of Living." --Hanjae 03:42, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks..."Way of Living: Man/Woman/Couple" or "Rules of Living: Man/Woman/Couple"...both sounds good and allows me to group the 3 shows together...What do you think? Whatever name is chosen will definitely go viral in our drama site circles. --Imian 19:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, the first one sounds better if you want to group it that way. Looks good to me, though. Alternatively, you could link them under "Related TV shows." --Hanjae 01:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yoo Ji Eun --> Seol Yoon

I think they're the same person. I made the Yoo Ji Eun page 2 years back. Their birthdates are the same. I guess a stage name change? I think we should just delete the YJE page? Do you mind handling it? --C51236 00:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, they do look like the same person from the photos. It'd be nice if they'd mention it on Korean portals if stars had different stage names in the past, but they often don't. I'll update Seol Yoon's page and put a deletion tag on Yoo Ji Eun's. Thanks for letting me know! --Hanjae 01:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah no problem. I've been watching SBS drama New Gisaeng Story and every time I saw her, I thought she looked familiar but couldn't remember her! She was in My Woman as the bratty younger sister. It would be helpful if artists didn't keep changing their stage names after they debut. It's quite confusing!! Thanks for adding the delete tags and what not to YJE page. --C51236 02:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

On Air drama

So I was think of creating a disambiguation page for On Air as SBS aired two versions: one in 2001 and the other in 2008 starring Park Yong Ha, Kim Ha Neul, Lee Bum Soo. However I'm having trouble finding info about the 2001 drama starring Cho Seung Woo. The page barely has any info on it and I don't know what hangul translation of the drama is. It was created before I started getting involved with DramaWiki. It's not listed on Cho Seung Woo's nate, daum or hancinema profile so I'm wondering if the drama actually existed at all. If this is true then his page will have to be marked for deletion as CSW has not appeared in any other dramas. --C51236 05:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I've run searches in Korean on DCinside, Naver and so on for Cho Seung Woo, On Air, anything; I can't find any reference to him ever having been in a drama either, nor there having been another drama called "On Air" on SBS. And Cho Seung Woo's official site only lists musicals, CFs and movies; no drama appearances. If this was created in 2001 (or before), I might have thought it was based on a rumour, but since the page was made in 2007... We could make sure by asking the page starter, but she hasn't made any contributions since 2009, so she might not even reply. I don't think it'd be a problem if you go ahead and mark both Cho Seung Woo and On Air for deletion. --Hanjae 09:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)