WaterOB
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My goal is to create an uniformed format for the Chinese sections that is inline with the Japanese section.
With inputs from A10203040, here are the suggested formats:
Contents
sample drama section
[[File:drama.jpg|thumb|300px]] ==Details== *'''Title:''' 劇名 / Ju Ming *'''English title:''' Official English Title for the drama *'''Also known as:''' If no official title is available, translated titled will be put here *'''Genre:''' Romance / Comedy / Medical / Suspense / Horror / Police / etc... *'''Episodes:''' 2 *'''Broadcast network:''' TTV / CTV / CTS / GTV / etc... *'''Broadcast period:''' 2006-Jul-02 to 2006-Jul-03 *'''Air time:''' 20:00-21:00 *'''Opening theme song:''' Ge Ming A (歌名A) by Artist *'''Ending theme song:''' Ge Ming B (歌名B) by Artist ==Synopsis== Write the synopsis here ==Cast== *[[Actor A]] (演員A) as Character A *[[Actor B]] (演員B) as Character B ==Production Credits== *'''Producer:''' *'''Director:''' *'''Screenwriter:''' *'''Music:''' ==Review== Please cite all reviews. ==Notes== *Trivia and such. Cite Source whenever possible. ==External Links== *[http://www.officialwebsite.com.tw Official Homepage] [[Category:TWDrama]] [[Category:TWDrama2006]] [[Category:GTV]]
sample actor/actress section
[[File:Yianyuanming.jpg|thumb|Yian Yuan Ming]] ==Profile== *'''Name:''' 演員名 / Yian Yuan Ming *'''English name:''' Actor's English name *'''Also known as:''' 小名 (Xiao Ming) / Yian Yuanming *'''Real name:''' 真名 / Zheng Ming *'''Profession:''' Actor, model *'''Birthdate:''' 1980-Jul-02 *'''Birthplace:''' Taiwan *'''Nationality''' USA *'''Height:''' 182cm *'''Weight:''' 72kg *'''Star sign:''' Cancer *'''Blood type:''' O *'''Family:''' Spouse [[Yian Yuan Ming 2]] (演員名2) *'''Talent agency:''' ABC Production ==About Yian Yuan Ming== A brief biography of Yian Yuan Ming in 500 words or less ==TV Shows== *[[Series 2]] (CTS, 2007, ep01) as Character A *[[Series 1]] (TTV, 2005) as Character B ==TV Show Theme Songs== *[[Song 2]], [[Series 2]] (2006) *[[Song 1]], [[Series 1]] (2005) ==Movies== *[http://www.movieB.com Movie B] (2006) as Character B *[http://www.movieA.com Movie A] (2003) as Character A ==Endorsements== *Product B (2006) *Product A (2005) ==Recognitions== *'''AWARD:''' Award A (2005) *'''APPOINTED:''' Ambassador A (2004) ==Trivia== *Trivia and such ==External Links== *[http://www.official_actor_page.com.tw Official Homepage] [[Category:TWActor]] [[Category:TWSinger]]
Dramawiki Guideline for Chinese
about Wallace huo picture
he looks ugly in that pic, but you keep on changing the picture i am uploading.. unsigned by User:Tubitubi 09:28, 17 Jun 2007
- Obviously Tubitubi, you have NO taste in photo quality. The photo is bitty because it is a poor scan job from a magazine. The color is also no calibrated correctly. DramaWiki is VERY strict on not just the look of the artist, but even MORE the quality of the color, cropping, and bittiness of the image. Groink 14:43, 17 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Zhang Yong Zheng Profile
Yong Zheng was in The Rose. He was Han Kui aka Joe Cheng's doctor when he was hit by a car, so I'm letting you know before you remove it again. Nice day Christaluvsazndramas 10:43, 30 Aug 2007
English Wikipedia to Chinese Wikipedia
To continue the convo regarding this issue that you and YT had... I never thought about it that way before. I would think this works well if many of the artists were already on the English Wikipedia. What about in the case that there is no English page on Wikipedia? We would then use the Chinese Wikipedia link. But then down the road, what if someone creates the English page? Are we then going to remove the Chinese link from DramaWiki?
Here's what I have in mind (but this is in no way a policy): The problem with the English Wikipedia is that many of their artist articles are way out of date. So for us editors, we rely more on Chinese Wikipedia than the English site. Thinking along the line of a user's experience, he would have to first click to the English page. And then second click to the Chinese page. On the other hand, if we provide both the English and Chinese links, it will satisfy both parties: the party who could care less about the Chinese Wikipedia, and the party who uses the Chinese Wikipedia for updates to port over to both DramaWiki and the English Wikipedia.
One thing I do want to mention for everyone is that once we set a guideline, it is to be used regardless of the genre - whether it is Chinese, Japanese, etc. So we need to think about this in that light. Groink 20:09, 18 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- I would like to put my input here. First of all, this is not a big matter at all. Like you said, active editor knows how to get Chinese link from English Wikipedia, but Drama Wiki is not only for editors. Drawa Wiki is also for the readers who are not editors. Most of them aren't as that familiar with Wikipedia. So, would there be any problem to put both wikipedia links? The target is to give the most convenient information to the readers. Therefore, i don't see there would be any problem to put both wikipedia links on the article. --uladelz 07:16, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- I'm for including Wikipedia links to both as well. As groink alluded to, it's not like DramaWiki visitors are forced to click on Chinese/Japanese/Korean Wikipedia if they don't know the language. That's why links are clearly labeled. Personally, I like to include direct links to Chinese Wikipedia, etc. as a way to cite the source of information I may have gotten for the creation and/or maintenance of DramaWiki articles. Also, I don't think it's necessarily safe to assume that all DramaWiki editors (or even just the active ones) are aware of the intra-linking between Wikipedia in various languages. If a policy is to be decided either way that will affect all genres (not just Chinese), I think input from other editors who may not necessarily be aware of this discussion, given its topic title, should also be taken into consideration. --Lady Zhuge 07:36, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- If that were the case, same logic would state that a Chinese artist page should have a Japanese, Arabic, Vietnamese, Korean wiki simply because it's where editors gotten their info. I did notice some wiki in another language has more comprehensive info than the native language. I don't like redundant info from the "SAME" source. If they can get to Chinese wiki through English wiki, why must we repeat it? And as I replied to uladelz, if the editors doesn't know about the intra-link, it's time for they to learn. --WaterOB 09:13, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- You take this matter too serious. If you are concern about English-only, why the character's name in hanzi (which i think they are not as that significant) are not being removed for most of Chinese articles? The "English-only" information and external links are two different things, you know. External links are just for references and like Lady Zhuge said, it's up to the readers if they want to click on the link or not. Therefore, there should not be any problem for linking both wikipedias. Besides, if you are going to remove Chinese Wikipedia link, this definitely nonparallel with other Japanese and Korean articles as they don't mind on keeping both links. I suggest we follow the majority =] --uladelz 11:08, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- I'd like to comment on this since Groink said it would also affect Japanese articles. For japanese articles I think the japanese wiki link has more value than most of the others that are frequently used like jdorama.com and often even the official site. --Gryzze 09:24, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- I support what uladelz have said about the seriousness of this topic. Unlike the other information of each entry, external links should be a bit more lax. It's really up to the user to click on the Chinese one or the English one. I really don't see how adding a Chinese wikipedia link or wikipedia links of other language would hurt this situation. Sometimes the English wikipedia does not provide as much details (in worst case, it only has one sentence "So and so is a Hong Kong singer and actor."). Regarding your argument that a Chinese artist page might get cluttered by having too many wiki links of different language, I would say that this is a highly hypothetical scenario. I don't think there are that many TV artists out there that has popularity covering such a huge geographical area (seriously, Arabic??). Besides, drama-wiki can easily limit the amount of intralinking by making it a policy that only a certain language of wiki links can be included in the external links section for each artist, i.e. only English, the other languages that the artist himself/herself speaks, and maybe one more language of a geographical area in which the artist is active (active in terms of TV shows). So, for example, for an artist whose main language is Chinese, but can also speak Japanese, it makes sense to include links from English, Chinese, and Japanese wikipedia. If this artist is also highly active in Korea, then a Korean wikipedia link is also allowed. This makes the most perfect sense to me, because if an artist speaks a certain language in public, he/she might promote or have works in that language. Of course this limiting policy is only my suggestion. Moreover, I don't believe there are that many wikipedia entries on one single artist unless he/she is very popular. I don't see how this limiting strategy would hurt the current situation. It's definitely easier to have a policy to limit the explosion of different language links than to remove all the current non-English links. - Humbeggar 11:43, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- Perfect points ;D --uladelz 12:33, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- This started as a simple difference of opinion between YT and I on the inclusion of Chinese wiki when there is English wiki present for Patty Hou. I consider Chinese wiki and English wiki the SAME source, therefore it's a duplicate posting under external links. Obviously, YT and you guys don't agree. I'm okay with that. I think the topic became serious when Groink mentioned about changing the policy for all categories. I never intended for it because my focus is for Taiwan articles only. --WaterOB 13:03, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
- It's "out of our box" if they got the same source or duplicating to each other. All we do is just to link them and i believe there is no harm to put both Chinese and English Wikipedia. ;] --uladelz 17:08, 19 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Fixing links after moving a page...
...is not necessary. The name change is already handled through redirects. If the page is moved again thoses edits will be rendered useless. The links can be easily fixed later by a maintenance script or robot for all pages. I regularly apply such trivial changes directly to the database. --MoerkJ talk 15:41, 27 Jan 2009 (CET)
Response to your comment...
Hi WaterOB, thanks for your concern. We licensed all our videos from the korean networks so we are all clear on the legal front. I'm new to this wiki so not sure if this is the best way to respond to you.