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== Test Message ==
Let me know if it works, ok?
--[[User:MoerkJ|<FONT COLOR="#008800">MoerkJ</FONT>]]<sup>[[User_talk:MoerkJ|&#9998; me a msg]]</sup> 21:06, 28 Mar 2005 (EST)

== cooeeee ==
Yeah looks like it works.  Btw I've been wondering how to link to a category thats not in the cateogry page starting from a certain position.  It works if I make it an external like e.g. <pre>[http://d-addicts.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:KDrama&from=L L]</pre> gives this
[http://d-addicts.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:KDrama&from=L L]

but totally fails if I make it in internal link <pre>[[:Category:KDrama&from=L|L]]</pre> which gives this [[:Category:KDrama&from=L|L]] I couldn't find anything in the wiki help either so maybe its not possible?  Let me know if you find anything that works for internal link.

== Perferred Spelling for Drama Wiki ==
Choi Gyu Hwan or Choi Kyu Hwan?

Thanks  --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 14:51, 6 Aug 2008
:I'm not really sure. According to [[DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences|our romanizing chart]] both is possible. I would prefer 'Kyu' because 'Choi' doesn't end with 'g'. Generally, I prefer McR over RR romanization. It always seems to me that McR is more common outside of Korea. (Also "Choi Kyu" seems to be more common than "Choi Gyu" when doing the Google-search-test.) --[[User:MoerkJ|<FONT COLOR="#008800">MoerkJ</FONT>]] 17:20, 6 Aug 2008 (CEST)

== Usage of Hangul letters in filenames ==
Okay I understand(Hangul turning to symbols, periods, italics if the language feature isn't present?), I guess I never though of that. I won't do that in the future, sorry. --[[User:Christaluvsazndramas|Christaluvsazndramas]]16:35, 10 Aug 2008

== Profile format ==
Is there a perferred way to name  - Empas Profile / EMPAS Profile / Profile (empas) ? Thanks [[User:Imian|Imian]] 17:48, 31 Aug 2008 (CEST)
:Well, it doesn't really matter, but I will stick to "Empas profile" in the future.
:Another thing, don't forget to tag new articles as stubs if they have "holes" and need further editing. See [[DramaWiki:Stub categories]] for some examples. Happy editing!  --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 18:25, 31 Aug 2008 (CEST)

== Image won't display ==

*N ! 00:48 Image:Let\'sGetMarried KBS Chart.jpg (diff; hist) . . Imian (Talk)
*N ! 00:42 Image:Let'sGetMarried(KBS)Chart.jpg (diff; hist) . . Imian (Talk)
*N ! 00:22 Image:Let\'sGetMarried(KBS)Chart.jpg (diff; hist) . . Imian (Talk)

Please help me with these image files. I cannot get them to show up on the image page or articles. Sorry about this. --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 08:29, 24 Sep 2008 (CEST)

:Why are you adding an apostrophe to all three filenames? You should only be using letters, numbers, dash (-) and underscore (_). Try using the filename "Lets_Get_Married_KBS-chart.jpg", [[DramaWiki:Style_guide#Imagery|which is in compliance with our recommendations on naming images.]] [[User:Groink|Groink]] 08:58, 24 Sep 2008 (CEST)

::I will stick to letters, numbers, dash (-) and underscore (_) from now on.  I re-read the naming images article and my only excuse is that I was using the article name "Let's Get Married (KBS)" to name the image file.
::Is is possible to add a reminder blurb about special characters to the Upload page? This an annoying problem ruined my evening goals.
::However a problem still remains. When you click the "thumb" image in the article [[Let's Get Married (KBS)]] it takes you to a blank image page. It is probably because to begin with, I wrongly named the original image files.   Please help. Thanks --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 19:28, 24 Sep 2008 (CEST)

:::Yes, the apostrophe causes a problem here. You have to escape it with a '\' when linking the image. And if you upload a file which contains a '\' it becomes inaccessible and can't even be deleted through the wiki. Soon, I'll add a "How to upload images" page which will cover this and some other things I've planned. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 07:01, 29 Sep 2008 (CEST)
:::: Thanks for the info. Sorry about causing more work for everyone. --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 07:13, 29 Sep 2008 (CEST)

== Image hotlinking ==
Is there anything that can be done to prevent people from hotlinking images from DramaWiki? I've noticed in a few places that quite a few people are directly linking to images here. --<small>unsigned message by [[User:Pinkpineapple|Pinkpineapple]] 16:31, 30 Sep 2008</small>
:Yup, that's on our todo-list (with low priority). We might restrict hotlinking to a few selected sites (e.g. D-Addicts forum, and maybe a few others). --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 18:42, 30 Sep 2008 (CEST)

== Uploaded Image ==
Hi! I accidentally uploaded the wrong version of the [[Giragira]] [[:Image:Giragira-banner.jpg|banner]] twice, and made a mistake with uploading another image (the [[:Image:Giragira-correlationchart.jpg|correlation chart]]). Can you delete my previous uploads? Btw, I couldn't save the images to below 100KB without compromising the quality... And sorry if my uploads made a mess out of the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]] log. Thanks! --[[User:MochaValencia|MochaValencia]] 06:17, 2 Oct 2008 (CEST)
:'''Done.''' I have removed the old revisions of the two images. And don't worry about the log. It doesn't have to "look good". ;)  --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 07:38, 2 Oct 2008 (CEST)
::Thanks! I'll be more careful next time. :D --[[User:MochaValencia|MochaValencia]] 07:42, 2 Oct 2008 (CEST)

== Typo Removal Request - Relationship ==

I've just noticed a typo in Section 4.3 & 4.4 of the Help page that I was spreading when I labeled various Correlation/Relationship charts in TV Show articles. (I cut and paste a lot). I'll correct as I come across them. Thanks and sorry. --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 09:05, 11 Oct 2008 (CEST)

4.3 Example images without a div tag
Image:Slowdancechart.jpg|thumb|350px|Relation '''c''' hip Chart - click to enlarge

4.4 Example images using the div tag
Image:Slowdancechart.jpg|thumb|350px|Relation '''c''' hip Chart - click to enlarge

== Question about Im Yoo Jin ==

'''Family:''' Daughter/actress [[Im Yoo Jin]] and daughter/actress [[Im Yae Won]]

For actor article [[Im Dong Jin]], his daughter Im Yoo Jin was in 2 movies (Flower Island (2001) and Deep Blue (1997), but I don't think she was in any TV Shows. Does she need a DramaWiki link? Maybe she can just be "Daughter/movie actress Im Yoo Jin"
--[[User:Imian|Imian]] 07:39, 12 Dec 2008 (CET)

:Thanks for noticing. Indeed, I couldn't find any drama info either when checking on empas. I have added her just in case she had TV appearances that are just not listed on empas. After all she is a movie and musical actress and other family members ''are'' drama actors. Maybe I sensed some potential for a listing on DramaWiki.
:I've just checked the nate movie index (another great information source!) and found two different actresses named ''Im Yoo Jin'', i.e [http://cizle.nate.com/movieinfo/people/people_filmography.php?people_id=10033 Im Yoo Jin (1974)] and [http://cizle.nate.com/movieinfo/people/people_filmography.php?people_id=74377 Im Yoo Jin (1981)]. Both have one or more TV shows listed in their filmographies. I haven't investigated further due to lack of time. Maybe there is potential for wikipages. I'll also change the link to [[Im Yoo Jin (1974)]] just to prevent any possible name collisions in the future. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 18:16, 19 Dec 2008 (CET)

== Account Deletion Request ==

Please delete my DramaWiki account.  Thank you.  --[[User:Lady Zhuge|Lady Zhuge]] 04:07, 22 Dec 2008 (CET)

:I hope you will reconsider your "retirement". You made so many contributions which are surely appreciated by a lot of readers. Don't get upset so easily after having a little fight with another editor. By the way, Wiki accounts cannot be deleted, but you may leave a message on your userpage if you feel so. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 07:48, 22 Dec 2008 (CET)

::Perhaps I overreacted, but I just really didn't appreciate Groink's hypocritical message of uniformity and essentially running a dictatorship as he sees fit.  He's only familiar with the Japanese TV industry and yet tries to apply his philosophies to everything else.  Anyway, thanks for clearing things up.  It seems like you're the go-to person for rhyme and reason.  I was not aware that TV movies can actually have their own articles created here on DramaWiki.  I was also not aware that Wiki accounts cannot be deleted.  Just out of curiosity, is it all user accounts or just those that have made at least one contribution? --[[User:Lady Zhuge|Lady Zhuge]] 09:08, 22 Dec 2008 (CET)

:::Well, that's our groink. He surely has some temper. The best is to keep the discussion strictly technical and not to take his sometimes harsh words to heart. Apart from that he's doing a fantastic job.
:::To be honest, I'm not aware of any TV movie article on DramaWiki so far. And also I'm not sure how many TV movies are produced in Asia and if this format has any relevance for DramaWiki.
:::And regarding the user deletion... There exists no formular or special page for admins to delete a user. Officially, the MediaWiki software manuals say that users cannot (and should not) be deleted. I can delete a user entry directly in the database, but I don't know for sure whether there could arise data conflicts when deleting users with contributions or not. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 13:09, 22 Dec 2008 (CET)

== Drama name - Can anyone help with this? ==

I would like to add a show profile for the 1994 MBC drama 마지막 승부 but I an uncertain what to call it. It already has several names (within artist profiles) in dramawiki - "The Last Game", "The Last Match", "The Final Game", "The Final Match", "Last Victory and Defeat". It is also called "The Last Dunk" and "Final Competition" at other web sites. Thanks. --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 22:25, 18 Feb 2009 (UTC)
:I'm sorry to interrupt, but hopefully [http://www.imbc.com/broad/tv/drama/lastgame this site might help you a bit?]. The site url uses "last game", which I'm supposing is "The Last Game". I remember having some problems with names before as well and was told to use one that comes up most/popular on Google search engine. It also translates to "last game" in English as well from the Korean title. But I may be wrong, so hopefully someone else will reply also. --[[User:Ladys07|ladys07]] 04:12, 19 Feb 2009 (UTC)
:: Thanks for interrupting ... "The Last Game" was my pick too but I wanted to check with y'all. --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 05:24, 19 Feb 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, [[The Last Game]] seems to be a good choice. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 07:20, 19 Feb 2009 (UTC)

== [[Banjun Drama]] Edits :) ==

Thanks for those - that helps me know how to do all this better :)
i do have one question though - is the way I have formatted the titles acceptable?
i.e. ''''ENGLISH'''' (hangeul ''romanisation'')

(I am getting translations for the ones i don't have - just waiting for confirmation) <small>''--unsigned message by [[User:Saharial|Saharial]] 21:08, 30 Mar 2009 (CEST)''</small>

:The format you have chosen is fine. It doesn't matter if some information (i.e. translations) is still missing. Other editors may fill the gaps later. Every contribution is very welcome.  Another thing... please always [[Help:Signature|sign your messages]] on [[DramaWiki:Talk page|talk pages]]. It's easier to read when you can see who said what. ^^ --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 23:38, 30 Mar 2009 (UTC)

== Banjun summaries ==

I have summaries for the JunJin episodes and, as time goes on i will add in those for all the ones i actually have, but i wanted to get formatting sorted before i begin seeing asthere are a lot of them!
*Should i organise the summaries into alphabetical order by main actor/actress as they did do 'seasons' of banjuns. Obviously the order would go JunJin - TVXQ  and then later i can add in Andy, Bi, Eric before junjin etc etc? I ask because I don't want to be accused of bias as I am taking the junjin summaries from my own website (i give myself permission haha)

Does this make sense?
--[[User:Saharial|Saharial]] 07:23, 4 Apr 2009 (UTC)

: One thing you might want to monitor is the size of [[Banjun Drama]]. MediaWiki doesn't actually have a limit, but we do try to keep the articles to a certain size (in KB) so that it makes for easier editing. As of this writing, Banjun Drama is 10KB. Wikipedia uses the 60KB rule, at which then the article may need to be chopped into multiple articles. As an example, [[Drama Complex]] and [[Kayo Drama Gold]], we create a separate article for each episode in this series. Looking at the potential growth of the article, at 87 episodes, this will be the largest article in all of DramaWiki, and therefore you may want to do the same thing as we're doing with the other series. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 09:13, 4 Apr 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah it would be nice to have some kind of grouping (maybe similar to the way they did it in the [http://soompi.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t131-0.html Soompi Banjun thread]). If the article gets too big, then we should break it into several smaller pages. We can link from the episode listing to the (sub)pages. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color=green>MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color=red>talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 09:23, 4 Apr 2009 (UTC)

::: Thanks for the tips on page size and yes, thats a really good point about how big it will get!!Based on your suggestions i would think that where the summaries are now there could be a list of grouped summaries each with their own page and the episode lists could have links to the pages those episodes are on so that anyone interested in the other stars can get to them easily too. Either that or there is one page/episode which could include the OST and any other trivia and the page is linked via the episode guide. I'm glad i asked now! ^^ --[[User:Saharial|Saharial]] 11:04, 4 Apr 2009 (UTC)

== Rating Table Class ==

Ok, thanks for letting me know (*^_^*).  This definitely makes things a lot easier.

== 252 Seizonsha ari: Episode ZERO - image upload ==

Hi :)
I've created a new page for the drama SP '252 Seizonsha ari: Episode ZERO'
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/252_Seizonsha_ari:_Episode_ZERO

And since I can't upload pictures, here's the DVD cover:
http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww275/akai_datenshi/Takako/Seizonsha.jpg

== External link for DramaFever ==
[[User:Dfever|Dfever]] had posted links to Kdrama video [http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Special:Contributions/Dfever]. I want to run it by you that it's okay for him to do so. He stated all the video are legally licensed from the network. --[[User:WaterOB|WaterOB]] 15:44, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

:Our guidelines don't allow such links. I'll discuss this further on [[User_talk:Dfever|Dfever's talkpage]]. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 19:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== problem with the new system ==

I have been experiencing two major problems with the new system.<br>
1. When I don't log in, the drama/ost/currently airing lists are outdated. New articles I added don't appear.
2. When I uploaded an image, File:Ko3s2.jpg, the system couldn't create a thumbnail image. It gives the following warning messages:<br>
- Error creating thumbnail: Unable to run external programs in safe mode.<br>
- Warning: escapeshellarg() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/wiki/domains/wiki.d-addicts.com/public_html/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1321<br>
Please help. --[[User:WaterOB|WaterOB]] 06:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about the first issue, but I'm definitely experiencing problem #2 as well. I only receive this error with certain pages, such as [[Ryu Sang Wook]] and [[The Man Who Can't Get Married]]. --[[User:Hanjae|Hanjae]] 08:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'm getting the thumbnail error with all the recently uploaded images (as of yesterday). But it's a first for [[The Man Who Can't Get Married]]. --[[User:Cerise|Cerise]] 11:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:::'''Fixed.''' It seems, for some reason certain php functions have been disabled in php.ini a few days ago. I have re-enabled some of the filesystem-related functions which DramaWiki needs for image handling (i.e. uploading and thumbnailing) and other things. So, this issue should be fixed now. If you still see some of these grey error boxes then try to [[Wikipedia:WP:BYPASS|force-reload]] the page or [[MW:Purge|purge the article]] first. (If purging doesn't work then you might have to [[Wikipedia:WP:NULL|null edit]] the article.) --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 15:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== MBC Drama Name ==
I would like to create an article for a 1999 MBC Sat-Sun evening drama [http://imbc.com/drama/nomind/ 남의 속도 모르고]. The only name that comes to mind (pun intended) is "No Mind". I welcome any help from anyone. Thanks --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 13:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

:"No Mind" most likely isn't the proper title or a useful translation. As far as I know, iMBC often uses poorly translated fragments of the original titles for their drama URLs. If the English title is unknown you could use the romanized form of the original title, i.e. [[Namui Sogdo Moleugo]]. Btw, there exists at least one [[IMDbTitle:0299056|movie]] and a popular song with the same title. Someone translated the song name to "You Don't Know My Feelings". But I don't know if this is a good translation. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 16:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks...I'll check out those sites and work on it some more...Recently I figured out some fragments  [http://www.imbc.com/drama/tom_shot/home.html tom shot] meant Tomorrow Shot = Shoot for Tomorrow / Aim for Tomorrow --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 02:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

== Star sign ==
I would like a line added to [[DramaWiki:Korean Artist Article Formatting#Profile section notes|Korean Artist Article Formatting: Profile_section notes]] about the "Star sign" entry, along with a corresponding link to our [[DramaWiki:Glossary of terms|Glossary of terms]] containing an expanded definition of the star signs and dates. Thanks.
--[[User:Imian|Imian]] 22:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC) p.s. I'll add the definition to the Glossary of terms

:Good idea. I added the explanation for the ''star sign'' profile entry. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 20:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

==Greetings and cannot upload a photo==
Hi MoerkJ, thanks for setting my account up. I have started editing the [[Hiroko Sato]] page, did a rename of the page to English name order so it was easier to find and will keep working on the article to get it up to scratch. I tried to upload a later photo from her old Tokyo agent FITONE that I have pemission to use but this requires administrative access. Can you point me to someone who can do this as the existing photo is over 5 years old. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

:Don't worry. You still cannot upload images, because you don't have the "autoconfirmed" user status, yet. Two days after account creation and after 10 edits users are automatically confirmed editors and can upload files. This is a some kind of protection because we don't want (new) editors to upload and replace lots of images. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 07:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks, I should have the edit count up high enough shortly. Have no fear, I will not be uploading any junk at all. [[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 08:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== You're My Pet ==

A new article, [[You're My Pet]], was recently started for the Korean version of [[Kimi wa Pet]]. However, the editor seems to have mistakenly read the news as referring to a new drama; the Korean version that is in casting at the moment is actually for a <I>film</I>. The translation and Korean source for this news is [http://www.dramabeans.com/2010/03/jang-geun-seok-takes-the-lead-in-youre-my-pet/ here]. --[[User:Hanjae|Hanjae]] 14:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi ==
Hi MoerkJ =)

Recently, I've been working on the [[Honto ni Atta Kowai Hanashi]] page since it was incomplete. However, it's a bit complicated format wise, and I've consulted groink about it as well. If you could look at the page, I've done season 1 and most of the tanpatsu. I'll be adding in a synopsis, and season 2 and the rest of the tanpatsu specials. but, I was wondering what you think of how I formatted it. I'm happy to change it in any way that's best for drama wiki, so your suggestions will be great.

Just to give you a little background on it, this drama consists of 2 regular seasons but more recently, it has just turned into a yearly tanpatsu (from around 2005 it made that switch). Each episode consists of 3-5 mini-dramas with a bunch of different actors in each of the mini-drama (thus the extensive cast list). So template-wise, I was thinking of just having the list of cast for the regular season.
For the tanpatsu part, its very similar to Yonimo Kimyo na Monogatari, so as per groink's suggestion, I followed the template of Yonimo for the Honto tanpatsu series.

So please take a look at the page and let me know what you think. As long as I can preserve the information I'm more than happy to change it in any way =) <small>''--previously [[Help:Signature|unsigned]] message posted by [[User:IwaseJEN|IwaseJEN]] on 18 May 2010 at 08:30''</small>

:The page structure looks fine to me. Splitting the tanpatsu specials to separate pages is also a good idea if they differ a lot from each other (different plot, cast, etc) and contain enough information to stand on their own. I guess you will link to the specials/tanpatsus that aired before season 1 in a similar way. I'm just wondering because I saw some related shows from 1999-2003 and 1991/1992 on the Japanese Wikipedia article (which I don't understand at all).

:Actually we don't really have (or need) an exact "design template" for series that consist of independent stories. So, you don't really need to worry about the page design. For example, we have several articles on kdrama series (sometimes called "omnibus dramas") which consist of independent segments. All these articles are structured very differently and have a different level of detail, e.g. [[Hometown Legends]], [[Love Story (SBS)]], [[Vacation]], [[Beating Heart]]. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 12:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

::Thanks for your input =) I've looked at some of the examples you listed, and I quite like the [[Hometown Legends]] one. I realized that if I add in Season 2 on to the page, the page is going to be very very extensive and perhaps even confusing. So, with that in mind I'm thinking of actually creating a seperate page for Season 1 and Season 2 like I did for the seperate specials. That way I can keep everything more organized and it'll probably be more easier to look at. So, if I create the seperate pages for the seasons, like the Hometown one, I can have the Episode one etc be the titles and also have subtitles of the mini-drama within each episode etc. I've tried doing a sample just to see what it would look like and it did indeed look more organized than just listing season 1 and season 2 on the same page.

::Also, yeah it gets even more complicated b/c before the regular seasons they had a few specials. They moved around time slots often, they used to be part of the Friday Entertainment slot, then they had 2 regular seasons, but now they're part of the Kayo Special slot. I'll make sure to add all that in =) Thanks again.  --[[User:IwaseJEN|IwaseJEN]] 18 May 2010

== Romanization of 중 ==
Would you mind if I change Dal-Jung's Cinderella to Dal Joong's Cinderella? Your Revised Romanization translation is correct, but for the charaacter 중, Joong instead of Jung seems to be the norm for Dramawiki.<br>On the same subject - Can you please take a look at the DramaWiki table on my user page? I would like add it (or something like it) to DramaWiki. Thanks --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 07:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, according to our [[DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences|guidelines for korean name romanization]] it should be rather Dal-Joong than Dal-Jung. I probably didn't noticed ''what'' I was romanizing here.

:Where do you want to integrate that table? There exist already good websites which explain romanization and pronounciation in detail, e.g. [http://sori.org/hangul/romanizations.html sori.org]. Btw, the table uses the class "MainPageBG" which is nowhere defined in DramaWiki. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 16:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

::Sorry I took so long to reply...I was thinking about putting a table for some common names right after the main table in [[DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences| our guidelines for korean name romanization]].<br>You're right - they are a lot of good websites that explain romanization, but they were usually biased towards using some subset of the revised romanization endorsed by the S Korean government (Gim/Kim, Bak/Park, Yi/Lee) - and it took me quite a long time to understand the rules and the DramaWiki exceptions to the rules (Yun/Yeon, Yoon/Yun, Suk/Seok, Sook/Suk). I had always thought that it would be nice to have more examples of what was "preferred DramaWiki romanization" in our [[DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences|guidelines]]. Thanks --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 16:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

:::What we use here for names is basically some kind of simplified [[Wikipedia:McCune-Reischauer|McCune-Reischauer romanization]] using only the letters A-Z and no breves or apostrophes. So, for the vowels we'd use ''u'' instead of ŏ (ㅓ), and ''eu'' instead of ŭ (ㅡ). The rest is more or less straight-forward.
:::Personally, I never learned Korean and have the same problems. When I'm unsure, I just use our Google-searchbox or a little romanization tool I programmed myself to find the transcription for certain letters. Maybe having a list with some examples would be helpful for a few editors. But, I think, it would just give the wrong impression that there exists an exact transcription that is always the right one. Some artists prefer a different romanization for their name (or parts of it). --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 23:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

::::You do have a point there...translation is not an exact science...I'll put this idea on the back burner for now...Thanks --[[User:Imian|Imian]] 23:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

::::Sorry to pop in here, but I've been wondering about the romanization of "eo" (ㅓ) for awhile now. For stylistic reasons, I can understand the appeal of using "uh" over "eo" when it's at the beginning (Uhn), but I've had many a discussion with Korean friends and they all stress that "uh" is only used to help people visualize the sound for "eo." It's not really correct. For names like "Seo", it particularly sticks out like a sore thumb. I know we also try to use what's most common on the Internet to ease searching, and "Seo", "Yeon" and "Jeon" are far more commonly used than "Suh", "Yun" and "Jun." The other problem with the latter two is that it's very easy to look at it and read it as "Yoon" and "Joon" if you're unfamiliar with Wiki guidelines and the reading of hangul, and probably confuses searchers more than anything. --[[User:Hanjae|Hanjae]] 03:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

:::::Well, the guidelines for Korean personal names were [[DramaWiki:Community Portal/2006#Korean personal names|fixed in 2006]] and describe in a consistent way how we romanized the names in 2005 and 2006. The guidelines apply only if (1) there is no official romanization provided by the artist or his/her agency, and (2) no commonly used romanization can be found (through a Google-test for example). If you think the guide needs to be changed or further specified in some way then you may post a proposal on [[DramaWiki talk:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences|its talkpage]]. Btw, it looks like the romanization of ㅓ has been [[User talk:A10203040/Korean personal names|discussed]] before. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 12:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== editing ==
Hello Moerkj

Is it better to do nothing than to make a few mistakes? I've created a few pages on wiki.d-addicts and I've made a few mistakes sometimes ( bad translation of a name or a word). I've also corrected other's mistakes sometimes.

Obviously, when making a small mistake here, you have someone leaving you a message telling to to read all the rules again, blablabla...  I guess unless you're sure to create a perfect page, it's better to do nothing, but why the "edit" button then? It's not needed!!!!

Personnally, I think that when you create a page full of informations and that you have to edit all the links related to the page, you can make a few mistakes at the end, when you get a bit tired, that's human.

I'm done with the wiki but when I think of the time I've wasted here....

best regards
--[[User:20_century_boy|20CB]] 14:30, 10 July 2010

:Don't take it too personal. Everybody has to learn how to edit a Wiki. The other editors just want to be helpful. They are pointing you to our guides so they don't have to cleanup your edits. And yes, the information is more important than its representation. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 16:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

== [[Jump / 跳出去]] & [[Shi Quan Jiu Mei / 十全九美]] ==
A user recently created pages for these two Singaporean films: [[Jump / 跳出去]] and [[Shi Quan Jiu Mei / 十全九美]]. Films aren't supposed to have their own pages and I guess the new user didn't know that. --[[User:C51236|C51236]] 21:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:Thanks for noticing. I have deleted them. --<b>[[User:MoerkJ|<font color="green">MoerkJ</font>]]&nbsp;<sup><small>[[User talk:MoerkJ|<font color="red">talk</font>]]</small></sup></b> 22:13, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
::No problem. Should the [[Leon Jay Williams]] film section should be fixed too? --[[User:C51236|C51236]] 22:47, 26 February 2011 (UTC)