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== "Tokyo Love Christmas" trivia ==
My contribution that Groink has objected to:
:In episode 1, the romance drama Mitsurugi Reiji is starring in is "Tokyo Love Christmas". This may be a combination of the Sakamoto Yuji dramas [[Tokyo Love Story]] and [[Last Christmas]].
Contrary to Groink, I think this is very justified "speculation". Such an awkward and similar title clearly wasn't plucked out of thin air. Let's restore it.
:Look up in the dictionary for the word "justified" and "speculation". Both words do not convey "fact". Remember, DramaWiki requires that EVERY, AND I MEAN EVERY piece of information must be non-point-of-view, and that it can be VERIFIED. DramaWiki does not allow 1st-person research on the part of the editor. [[DramaWiki:Style_guide#Establishing_credibility|Please read the DramaWiki style guide for information on establishing credibility through citing sources]]. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 14:01, 1 Nov 2006 (CST)
:Think about it... What if you wrote the same thing in a term paper for your school? Your teacher comes up to you and asks where you obtained the information. Are you going to tell her, "Well, sensei, it is justified speculation on my part." Do you know what sensei is going to do? He's going to write a massive letter "F", probably with a thick sharpie pen, across the front page. Again, read the style guide. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 14:06, 1 Nov 2006 (CST)
::First of all, considering the style guide's editable, and that in fact ''you'' wrote most of it, I think it's highly dishonest for you to point people to it as the infallible authority backing you up. So much for a NPOV.
::Second, it's interesting that you make an analogy to a term paper, because any term paper worth reading at all is going to contain new "facts", things that one didn't know before reading it and couldn't know, because they are original ''theories'' invented by the author, who backs them up with ''arguments'' that then make use of previously-known facts. This is what I mean by "justified speculation". Your sensei's still going to give you an F if you just regurgitate the encyclopedia and show no sign of independent thinking. (Maybe a D, if you're nice.) If the trivia was simply the first sentence, that the drama he starred in is "Tokyo Love Christmas", that's certainly unquestionable (1st episode, 2:36). But what makes this fact relevant to anybody at all is my theory that it's a jab at two established, classic romance dramas. This is the sort of thing that makes dramas interesting. It's also what makes DramaWiki interesting to its users, not ever more correct and comprehensive cast and ratings info, although they are important too. If we just want the latter, we should just use a database, not a wiki. Maybe you can run it.
::I will give you an example from another drama, [[Stand Up!!]]. There was a scene where Shou decides to watch some classic romance dramas to learn what love is, and the videos are clearly parodies of "Tokyo Love Story", "Asunaro Hakusho" and "101 Proposals" - iconic scenes, dialog, music etc. Ah, you'll say, ''but this isn't verifiable anywhere! Tsutsumi Yukihiko didn't actually print the bloody titles on the screen! The official site didn't announce it! Blah blah blah...'' You want to know where I got the information? I got it from my drama-watching experience. I could show a newbie the dramas and nobody would disagree that they're parodies; among drama fans it's understood, which is why it's funny. Your dogmatic stance against anything smacking of non-official information - even if it's hardly "fanboy/fangirl" propaganda - prevents people from sharing what they know, and other people from learning more and appreciating the dramas more. DramaWiki will be poorer for it. --[[User:Lzydata|Lzydata]] 20:17, 1 Nov 2006 (CST)