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== Editing Artist Images ==
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== Imagery ==
  
I can see that you are a fan of [[Lee Joon Ki]] which makes you really want to edit his page and add info in it. BUT you are making contributions that are not that necessary and most of the pictures that you replaced in your edits are not that better than the previous ones. When you edit the page for [[Nam Sang Mi]], the photo shouldn't be "posey". The features of the photo should be kept simple and original. If the background is black, the colour of the person's hair may blend in with the background. Please note that Dramawiki is not a page for fans to "decorate" their idol's page. It's okay to add info on your favourite artist's page, but please make everything as brief as possible and don't add unnecessary things onto the page.
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I see that your reverted both mine and [[User:Azndgn26|Azndgn26]]'s image for [[Nam Sang Mi]] citing "cleaner photo previous photo blends in with bg too much." That was hardly the case. The original image has white background and viewable full face. The new photo you uploaded, however, did not conform with Dramawiki's [[DramaWiki:Style_guide#Imagery|guideline on image selection]]. Therefore, I'm reverting your change, again. <p> I aslo want to point out the new [[Lee Jun Ki]] photo quality is not quite acceptable. First, it has too much contrast on the face. (He doesn't look like him anymore. Unless, he had plastic surgery since the last time I watched [[Hero (MBC)|Hero]].) Second, the image is off-center. Please crop image to focus on the face. --[[User:WaterOB|WaterOB]] 20:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
  
If you are not sure, please read again:
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:: I would suggest looking at these images then discussing this http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Moon_Chae_Won, Chen Hao and Lee Da Hae. As far as I am concern these photos don't follow your rules as well. The quality on the new Nam Sang Mi photo uploaded is better in both quality, colour and focus point. [[User:Dana|dfr529]] 22:17, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[Dramawiki:Korean Artist Article Formatting|Korean Artist Article Formatting]]
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:LOL! No it's him in the photo. It was taken at the 2010 Shanghai Expo. [[User:Dana|dfr529]] 22:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[DramaWiki:Style guide#Imagery|Rules About Images]]
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:::You are correct in that [[Moon Chae Won]] picture doesn't fit with our guideline. And, I hope an editor will replace it with a better picture of her. As for [[Chen Hao]], her image is fine. It is focused on her face (the whole face) and the color is acceptable (it could be better). <p>Don't get me wrong. The new picture for [[Nam Sang Mi]] is gorgeous. BUT, it doesn't fit Dramawiki guideline. We prefer to see her whole face and not just the side of her face. We want it to focus just on the head and not head + upper body. We avoid image with too much artistic touch (high contrast or low saturation). I won't blame you for uploading less than perfect picture if there is none to begin with. The problem you are creating for us is that you replaced a perfectly good picture of [[Nam Sang Mi]] with a less than perfect one. So stop changing pictures until you read and understand dramawiki guideline. What you need to do now is change her picture back to the original one. --[[User:WaterOB|WaterOB]] 00:31, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[DramaWiki:Style guide#Writing a synopsis|Rules About Synopses]]
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:Alright I have placed the old one back because you were so nice to me. [[User:Dana|dfr529]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
  
Remember to read about the other advices that other users are giving you. There is a reason that they are spending their time telling you to change your edits. Please make your contributions valuable to Dramawiki instead of creating a concern for others. [[User Talk:Chillyperson|Chillyperson]] 13:14, 15 August 2009 (PST)
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== Lee Jun Ki ==
  
: Hey, fandork! Enough of editing Jung Kyung Ho.jpg! The previous photo's perfectly fine! You keep trying to focus on the chest area. Very fandork of you! Stop it! [[User:Groink|Groink]] 00:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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I noticed that you kept reverting my changes on his page, changes were made to follow the format and guidelines on the [[DramaWiki:Korean Artist Article Formatting|Korean Artist Article Formatting]] page, especially his profile:
  
: Lay off of Miyazaki Aoi's photo. The older photo is perfectly fine. Any replacements WILL be reverted. I can play this game just as die-hard as you. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 02:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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=== Profile section ===
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<pre>[[Image:<image name>|<thumb><frame>|<width>px|right|name of artist]]
  
==Plagiarism charges==
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== Profile ==
Dana, look at the situation from Pinkpineapple and my point of view. How are WE supposed to know that you and df4529 are of the same person? Is there any proof? We can't just take your word for it. If you have a profile on CrunchyRoll as df4529, make an entry in your CR profile that you are AKA Dana. Once you do that, provide a link to your CR's profile via your User page, and THEN you can re-use df4529's works on DramaWiki. Until you do this, consider copies from CR as plagiarism. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 05:19, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
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*'''Name:''' <stage name in hangul> / <see note> (<revised romanization>)
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*'''Also known as:''' <see note>
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*'''Real name:''' <see note>
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*'''Nicknames:'''
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*'''Profession:'''
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*'''Birthdate:''' <see note>
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*'''Birthplace:''' <city, province, country>
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*'''Height:''' <in cm>
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*'''Weight:''' <in kg>
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*'''Star sign:'''
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*'''Blood type:'''
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*'''Family:''' <relationship [[name]] (hangul)>
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*'''Talent agency:'''</pre>
  
I've updated the [http://wiki.d-addicts.com/DramaWiki:Style_guide#Re-use_of_your_works_from_other_web_sites style guide] to address your situation regarding the use of different aliases across the various wiki's. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 07:19, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
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Lee Jun Ki left Mentor Entertainment to join JG Company Inc. hence the removal. On his biography, we should keep it short, concise, and about his works; there were unnecessary info such as fan meets. Keep in mind that we mainly focus on his TV dramas. Some of the links were replaced because previous links were broken. You may edit his page if necessary otherwise, please refrain from reverting the changes and please follow the guidelines. -- [[User:Azndgn26|Azndgn26]]
  
==STOP==
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::Your wrong Lee Jun Ki is still in touch with Mentor and completely erasing Mentor from his history isn't encyclopedic. I never submitted any info about fan meets that was from the previous editor. I do follow guidelines. [[User:Dana|dfr529]]
Please, '''STOP''' editing articles on DramaWiki until you've read the following articles:
 
*[[DramaWiki:Style guide|Style Guide]]
 
*[[DramaWiki:Korean TV Show Article Formatting|Korean TV Show Article Formatting]]
 
*[[DramaWiki:Korean Artist Article Formatting|Korean Artist Article Formatting]]
 
You've made a mess of several pages which now will need to either be cleaned up or reverted completely. I understand that you want to help but you've really done more damage than anything else. Do not make another page or edit another article until you fully read and understand those articles I've pointed out. --[[User:Pinkpineapple|<FONT COLOR="#EC008C">Pineapple</FONT>]] 03:34, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
 
  
:Dana, what the f_uck do you think DramaWiki is? Some sort of a ghetto where you can make up your own s_hit as you go? No dates on photos! Don't change photos for the hell of it! Don't plagiarize synopses! Don't make up your own sections! DramaWiki is not a place for fandorks. Like Pinkpineapple says - read the guidelines! If you don't agree to the guidelines, well... there's always Wikipedia! [[User:Groink|Groink]] 04:58, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
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:::: "His contract with Mentor Entertainment ended late January and has now decided to join our company," stated a representative from JG on Friday." Source: [http://10.asiae.co.kr/Articles/new_view.htm?sec=ent0&a_id=2010021915254559812 10asia] -- [[User:Azndgn26|Azndgn26]]
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:Yes his contract but not his contact. It's like having a resume and deleting your past jobs from it. That's what you are doing Azndgn26. Think about it. Let's say I worked at Winners and am now applying for Yishion does that mean I should completely delete Winners from my work history even though they are both in the same retail industry. And I know this is not a resume but it is still a part of his work history. [[User:Dana|dfr529]] 22:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
  
:: One more thing... See that "Show preview" button while editing? Do you know what that's for? That's so YOU DON'T GO FLOODING THE GOD DAMN LOGS WITH 28 OF YOUR EDITS FOR JUST '''ONE''' ARTICLE!!!!!! Plan your edits CAREFULLY before saving. Show preview 100 times if you have to! But for Christ's sake, use the Show preview button! [[User:Groink|Groink]] 05:00, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
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::If his contract ended, he's not part of the agency nor is he listed on the site, and his new agency has confirmed to manage solely his activities then there is no reason why we need to keep his old agency. What we want is the artist's current agency, not a whole list of agencies they've belonged to, if that were the case, then every profile would have a list of every single agencies they've belonged to. We also don't want to come across an artist's page and have to figure out which agency they currently belong to. A lot of profiles are up to date but of course editors aren't always aware of new info. Some things will change in an artist's profile whether it be their profession, their family, or talent agency. Profiles (and external links) are up to date info while everything else is more of a database of previous/current works. Editors have always updated talent agencies.
  
And one thing about the photos: We're not focusing on "up-to-date" photos. We are NOT going to change a photo every fricking time the actor changes his hair style. Changing [[Miyazaki Aoi]]'s photo is NOT necessary. The ONLY thing we're concerned with is if the photo CONFORMS to DramaWiki standards. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 05:04, 15 Aug 2009 (UTC)
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::I would also suggest you read the [[DramaWiki:Korean Artist Article Formatting|Korean Artist Article Formatting]] page as the Biography section does not follow the guidelines. Biography sections are labeled with "About ". The links to Virgin Snow and May 18 are broken, check the links before editing them, that's why I replaced them. I also rearranged the ordering of the external links, prioritizing the most reliable, credible and informative sites. -- [[User:Azndgn26|Azndgn26]]
 
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:Ah I see I saw that there were other pages with Biography on it so I thought it was minor change. In the External links I actually found that Korean Wikipedia is the most up to date on his background. Nate not so much and the epg link is dead (weird I know). And Mentor still has his page link so I placed it with External Links.And I have returned the links to Hacinema for VS and May 18. Everything is expiring.[[User:Dana|dfr529]] 07:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
I am really losing my patience with you. Stop editing and re-read [[DramaWiki:Style guide#Imagery|this]] (along with those other articles above) VERY carefully. I am going to revert your pictures again, if you replace them with the poor image choices that you uploaded I will put your name up for discussion to be banned for disrupting DramaWiki with vandalism. What you are doing is totally disregarding not only DramaWiki guidelines but also completely ignoring people who are trying to help you understand what you're doing wrong.
 
 
 
BTW, prologues are not allowed on DramaWiki. If you even bothered to read those articles I gave you, you would know that. --[[User:Pinkpineapple|<FONT COLOR="#EC008C">Pineapple</FONT>]] 21:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Removing cleanup tags ==
 
Tags like the cleanup tag is added to an article for a reason. Removing a tag without taking care of the issue it addresses is considered disrespect for DramaWiki guidelines. Do not do it again. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 04:35, 14 Oct 2007 (CDT)
 
 
 
== Lee Joon Ki ==
 
Don't even THINK of using that photo you uploaded. The current photo is much better quality for DramaWiki. [[User:Groink|Groink]] 00:16, 7 Nov 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Music Video Listings ==
 
They're not allowed on DramaWiki. DramaWiki tracks only TV dramas. Other forms of TV-based entertainment should not be listed (variety shows, music videos, etc.) [[User:Groink|Groink]] 13:25, 23 Nov 2007 (CST)
 
 
 
== Vandalism report ==
 
You have officially been reported to the administrators for vandalism of DramaWiki. Your account may become disabled as a result. We warned you! [[User:Groink|Groink]] 23:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 23:53, 9 April 2010

Imagery

I see that your reverted both mine and Azndgn26's image for Nam Sang Mi citing "cleaner photo previous photo blends in with bg too much." That was hardly the case. The original image has white background and viewable full face. The new photo you uploaded, however, did not conform with Dramawiki's guideline on image selection. Therefore, I'm reverting your change, again.

I aslo want to point out the new Lee Jun Ki photo quality is not quite acceptable. First, it has too much contrast on the face. (He doesn't look like him anymore. Unless, he had plastic surgery since the last time I watched Hero.) Second, the image is off-center. Please crop image to focus on the face. --WaterOB 20:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest looking at these images then discussing this http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Moon_Chae_Won, Chen Hao and Lee Da Hae. As far as I am concern these photos don't follow your rules as well. The quality on the new Nam Sang Mi photo uploaded is better in both quality, colour and focus point. dfr529 22:17, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
LOL! No it's him in the photo. It was taken at the 2010 Shanghai Expo. dfr529 22:36, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
You are correct in that Moon Chae Won picture doesn't fit with our guideline. And, I hope an editor will replace it with a better picture of her. As for Chen Hao, her image is fine. It is focused on her face (the whole face) and the color is acceptable (it could be better).

Don't get me wrong. The new picture for Nam Sang Mi is gorgeous. BUT, it doesn't fit Dramawiki guideline. We prefer to see her whole face and not just the side of her face. We want it to focus just on the head and not head + upper body. We avoid image with too much artistic touch (high contrast or low saturation). I won't blame you for uploading less than perfect picture if there is none to begin with. The problem you are creating for us is that you replaced a perfectly good picture of Nam Sang Mi with a less than perfect one. So stop changing pictures until you read and understand dramawiki guideline. What you need to do now is change her picture back to the original one. --WaterOB 00:31, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Alright I have placed the old one back because you were so nice to me. dfr529 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Lee Jun Ki

I noticed that you kept reverting my changes on his page, changes were made to follow the format and guidelines on the Korean Artist Article Formatting page, especially his profile:

Profile section

[[Image:<image name>|<thumb><frame>|<width>px|right|name of artist]]

== Profile ==
*'''Name:''' <stage name in hangul> / <see note> (<revised romanization>)
*'''Also known as:''' <see note>
*'''Real name:''' <see note>
*'''Nicknames:'''
*'''Profession:'''
*'''Birthdate:''' <see note>
*'''Birthplace:''' <city, province, country>
*'''Height:''' <in cm>
*'''Weight:''' <in kg>
*'''Star sign:'''
*'''Blood type:'''
*'''Family:''' <relationship [[name]] (hangul)>
*'''Talent agency:'''

Lee Jun Ki left Mentor Entertainment to join JG Company Inc. hence the removal. On his biography, we should keep it short, concise, and about his works; there were unnecessary info such as fan meets. Keep in mind that we mainly focus on his TV dramas. Some of the links were replaced because previous links were broken. You may edit his page if necessary otherwise, please refrain from reverting the changes and please follow the guidelines. -- Azndgn26

Your wrong Lee Jun Ki is still in touch with Mentor and completely erasing Mentor from his history isn't encyclopedic. I never submitted any info about fan meets that was from the previous editor. I do follow guidelines. dfr529
"His contract with Mentor Entertainment ended late January and has now decided to join our company," stated a representative from JG on Friday." Source: 10asia -- Azndgn26
Yes his contract but not his contact. It's like having a resume and deleting your past jobs from it. That's what you are doing Azndgn26. Think about it. Let's say I worked at Winners and am now applying for Yishion does that mean I should completely delete Winners from my work history even though they are both in the same retail industry. And I know this is not a resume but it is still a part of his work history. dfr529 22:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
If his contract ended, he's not part of the agency nor is he listed on the site, and his new agency has confirmed to manage solely his activities then there is no reason why we need to keep his old agency. What we want is the artist's current agency, not a whole list of agencies they've belonged to, if that were the case, then every profile would have a list of every single agencies they've belonged to. We also don't want to come across an artist's page and have to figure out which agency they currently belong to. A lot of profiles are up to date but of course editors aren't always aware of new info. Some things will change in an artist's profile whether it be their profession, their family, or talent agency. Profiles (and external links) are up to date info while everything else is more of a database of previous/current works. Editors have always updated talent agencies.
I would also suggest you read the Korean Artist Article Formatting page as the Biography section does not follow the guidelines. Biography sections are labeled with "About ". The links to Virgin Snow and May 18 are broken, check the links before editing them, that's why I replaced them. I also rearranged the ordering of the external links, prioritizing the most reliable, credible and informative sites. -- Azndgn26
Ah I see I saw that there were other pages with Biography on it so I thought it was minor change. In the External links I actually found that Korean Wikipedia is the most up to date on his background. Nate not so much and the epg link is dead (weird I know). And Mentor still has his page link so I placed it with External Links.And I have returned the links to Hacinema for VS and May 18. Everything is expiring.dfr529 07:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)